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[–]Jiminy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

But we need to change laws so false accusers get their lives ruined.

[–]NastyWetSmear 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

YYeeessss, I think it already is, but you have to be careful with stuff like that.

I'd love to see people who fling accusations around get a swift and serious case of justice, but the last thing you want is to make reporting a crime a coin toss on if or not you end up getting arrested for doing so. I think most places consider making false allegations a crime, but you need to have an airtight case showing that it was a malicious allegation and not just someone who felt honestly in danger but couldn't bring enough proof for a guilty verdict, yeah?

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Noooo if the accuser can't prove it means they lied, need new laws saying that.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Woah there, tiger! If someone shoots your family dead, but then does a good job of covering up the evidence, you don't wanna be locked up.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Doubt that happens. Women's false accusations are a bigger threat.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You doubt people kill people? You lost me...

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Go read original comment here, stay on topic, don't create scenarios to defend false accusers.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I am the original comment. I am on topic - the point is that it's difficult to legally punish false allegations simply based on "No proof" because that isn't evidence that the allegation is false and it discourages other possible, future allegations.

If you're trying to say that you want me to keep the examples relevant specifically to HR, then it kind of remains the same argument - If it requires evidence, then I can corner someone in a bathroom and threaten to murder them at work, because it's just them and me in the bathroom. That's what I mean by HR having their hands tied in this regard because they face backlash if there's a complaint that they didn't action, but they also face backlash if there's a complaint that they do action and it turns out to be false.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fag

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Knob jockey.