Hang in there kid, transitioning will make all your dreams come true

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[–]artetolife 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Perked right up at the thought of growing a beard though. Too bad that probably aint happening lol.

[–]xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They might get some wispy peach fuzz that any dude with an ounce of self respect would shave off.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I think, at her age, injecting yourself with Testosterone will likely result in some changes. She'll probably bulk up, though I doubt her skeleton is going to change significantly, so she'll always have a fairly feminine frame, just with more muscle. I'd say a beard would be certain, though it will always be on that feminine looking face. I'd also say there's a good chance her voice will break.

If you pump male or female hormones into a body on the cusp of puberty, it'll have a difficult and confusing effect, no doubt. I'm not sure what the results would be if she decided she was just a normal young woman having a hard time socially and with her body changes and wanted to stop - I guess the voice changes would be permanent, but if you let your body return to a balanced state of natural female hormones over time, would your beard stop growing? On instinct I kinda feel like the answer is no, because testosterone drops in men as they age, and some people even have issues where it drops more than most, but their beards still grow?...

... Is there a doctor or a biologist of some kind in the house?

[–]Wanderingthehalls 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I've seen a few young transmen who start to go quite bald after a few years. I suspect that is a panic inducing development for an awful lot of them. I know that most men don't love it if they go bald but it's something that they have a degree of preparation for through their lives, especially if their older male relatives are bald. But hair is such a massive big deal for girls and women in a way I don't think it is for boys/men. I suspect that even if a kid thinks she wants to be a man and cuts it really short, seeing her hairline recede causes feelings she wasn't remotely prepared for.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Remember that video of the woman who went through everything to try and become a man, then ended up crying about how lonely and isolating and hard and unkind the world is towards men and she wasn't prepared for trying to live in a world that doesn't give a fuck about you and doesn't think you're amazing for just being you?... I imagine baldness might be like that. You sort of romanticize it: "When I'm a man, I'll be strong and have a beard and be tall and people will be respectful and intimidated by me! I'll confidently hit on women and get a better job and never get tired or overwhelmed! It'll be amazing!!"... Then your hair goes down the drain and suddenly it hits you... Everyone has their own battles, you just never understood that life is hard for everyone.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't believe stories like that because she wouldn't have been treated as a man because nobody passes in real life. Some ftms pass in photos but not once you see them moving, talking or around other people where their odd proportions are obvious compared to everyone around them. So she wouldn't have been treated like a man but like someone that was setting off warning bells in the brains of everyone around her. Saying she didn't like being treated like a man was just a delusional coping method.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Let me see if I can find the video. I think she passes as a very small, feminine man.
Here we go. - Obviously crying about how hard it is not to be loved by everyone gives away that she didn't grow up as a man, but otherwise, at a glance? I'd say that's a dude.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's not real life though. Even with the very tight aspect ratio she looks like she has tiny shoulders that don't go with her head. She will have a woman's gait. People have been shown to be able to identify men and women based on their gait alone. Meeting a person with a man's head on an odd body that it doesn't match, with a woman's gait will make people react unnaturally because even if they can't tell exactly why this person makes them feel uneasy, they will still feel uneasy. Even people with the best of the 'be kind' intentions will react in a closed off manner to someone that they read as being wrong. It's a normal human reaction to oddity. This woman has no idea whatsoever how people react to men. She only knows how they react to women compared to how they react to uncanny valley people.

[–]NastyWetSmear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You might be right, in the full view it might all fall apart. That's why I said it would need to be a very small, feminine man - Because while her face looks pretty masculine, I doubt her frame is the same.

Either way, I say that's pretty good, even if the whole thing ends up being Uncanny Valley when seen in full. You gotta admit, women who become men have it easier than the men trying to become women. One of those looks like an unfortunate man who didn't get enough protein growing up... The other way around it's never quite so easy.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's easier to add to a smaller thing to make it look bigger than to make a bigger thing look smaller. A man's skeletal proportions are bigger than a woman's. Even an individual woman who is bigger than an individual man will have smaller proportions. So a woman can take testosterone, lift a lot of heavy weights to bulk up her shoulders and grow a beard to hide her female jaw. Which will go some way to disguising the womanliness underneath. But a man can't disguise male shoulders and male jawline as they are bigger than a woman's. The best option transwomen have to pass is to be morbidly obese. 200-300lbs of excess fat will hide a lot.