TRANSGENDERChris from YouTuber Mr. Beast's content has left his wife and become a nonbinary troon, is now talking about how altering your body with estrogen is "life saving"

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[–]Enemycupcake 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah mine does too. It was actually fairly entertaining also, it sucks that this guy is fucking it up with trooning out. His friend makes a ridiculously successful YouTube channel and this guy brings in controversy and pisses people of on both sides by dragging it into the psycho trannie world. Pretty selfish and guaranteed he doesn't give a shit about how his choices affect the other people in his life.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've made the decision to block the Mr Beast channels for now. And I told my son that it's a bit unsuitable at the moment, so best if he avoids it for a while in case he specifically goes searching for it. I feel quite sorry for Jimmy Donaldson. I think it's obvious he knows what Chris could be bringing down on top of him and that he's likely to lose followers regardless of what he does.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Whole I appreciate your care for your son and certainly agree with your underlying motivations I think this is a point where you need to tread carefully. My parents were very strict with what I could and couldn't watch as a kid and would ban things based on the "culture war" and I'd be frustrated when I didn't understand it which made me very good at hiding shit from my parents and very good at finding this shit. Got exposed to the trans bubble very early. I rejected it as I thought it was more or less nonsense but my parents never knew.

I think that no matter what you do your kids are going to eventually be exposed to this shit. It sucks but these days, you can't protect them entirely, I think you need to proactively explain it, explain what it is, and explain why it's a problem. I don't really know how to go about making good media consumption policies in this day and age, but I don't think you can afford to really protect your kids from exposure to it, and some point they're gonna encounter it and I think you're better off letting the kids at the very least see what's going on after you've given them a basic knowledge of the physical reality of how sex works. That alone should insulate a lot.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for your thoughts. My rule for his youtube watching is that sometimes there are videos/channels I'm going to have to say he can't watch but that I will always talk to him as much as he wants about why. I had a chat with him about Mr Beast and said there is some stuff on the channel at the moment that I don't think is great for kids to be watching, so it's best to not watch for a little while. I explained that the issue is not with Mr Beast/Jimmy himself but one of his friends and hopefully it will get sorted out before too long. He's fine with that for now. From my perspective I've seen men like Chris push boundary after boundary to see how far they can go. So I don't want to take a risk with what a 10 year old can be exposed to.

We do actually talk about this stuff quite a bit. I'd rather never have to talk about this kind of thing to him and I feel kind of icky when I do, but someone is going to talk to him about it, so it's best if it's me. He knows people can't change sex and thinks non-binary is stupid but thinks it's best to just be nice about people who are being non-binary as long as they don't bother him. I've told him that if anyone ever makes him feel uncomfortable to come to me about it and we'll work out what to do. That people get very angry about this issue, so to be careful about what he says to other people. He has worked out for himself that children's entertainment media is full of weird messaging. He saw the Ridley Jones non-binary bison cartoon and was instantly very, very angry about it because he recognised straight away that it was trying tell pre-schoolers that they should maybe be non-binary. He saw Strange World and immediately said he didn't like the over-used environmental trope. A month or so later he asked me why so many kids movies now have gay relationships that aren't part of the plot. Like in SW the main boy has a boyfriend who could easily be removed from the movie, when normally a characters boyfriend/girlfriend is part of the adventure. So he's about as prepared as he can be but I still think it's best if he doesn't watch Mr Beast for now. Despite all of the above he's still a very innocent kid who still believes in Santa and the toothfairy and finds the thought of anything sexual quite uncomfortable. So I really don't want him watching a man act out his fetish on content aimed heavily at chldren.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like you've got a good handle on it. I think as long as you aren't overly strict on it and don't make the kid afraid to share what they are watching with you it will be fine. My parents would freak the fuck out if they ever saw me watching anything on TV they considered inappropriate, which was basically impossible to figure out on my end so I just learned "don't let the parents know what you are watching" and got good at hiding it, which by the time the internet came around was quite useful for accessing porn and the parents had no idea by that point.

I'd rather never have to talk about this kind of thing to him and I feel kind of icky when I do, but someone is going to talk to him about it, so it's best if it's me.

Yeah this is the point a lot of parents don't get i think. Either you teach your kid or someone else will. You can't protect them forever. If kids are completely oblivious to say, the basic physical realities of how sex works (by that I mean, eggs, sperm, basic reproduction) then of course they are more susceptible to believing the gender woo woo.

I think the real problem with Mr. Beast is going to be that, as it's super popular, you can't really ban something that all the kids are into even if you don't like it. Can decry peer pressure or whatever but if say, some violent movie or game or something is what all the kids are into the banning your kid from it is going to simply socially isolate them making it more likely they'll end up getting into the weird shit online. I think it's a difficult balance to be had.

I agree it's best to be very concerned with these kinds of sudden transition types. I think Mr. Beast is going to have a problem on his hands if his friend realizes that he can push the envelope farther and farther and use claims of transphobia as a way to bully everyone into submission. I've seen a few cases like this and knew a guy whose wife suddenly decided to transition and it utterly destroyed their marriage.