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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I have very little sympathy for anyone in these sorts of altercations. The guy escalating the shit gets clocked? No shit what did you expect. The guy that's throwing the punches because he got called a naughty word, dude it's a word chill the fuck out.

Both parties are idiots.

[–]cephyrious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

For sure getting physical after the N-word is ALSO an escalation that can lead to more violence. No disagreement there. But there certainly is a spectrum of possibilities between (and within each of) "making fun of" and "being called a slur". The linked post is right about that, and while escalating to violence isn't correct, it's within the realm of possibility to expect. Just like rape is always wrong, but if a beautiful woman walks out near naked on a town square at night in Kairo, it is to be expected. The rapists are wrong, the victim is innocent, but reality is what it is.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Going up to some black person and calling him a nigger to his face is an escalation, and getting clocked for it is part of the no shit Sherlock school of consequences. The person being called a nigger shouldn't be responding with violence. But there really are very few situations where violence is the preferable action, since invariably it will simply escalate shit.

Take something else not verbal at all. Some mother fucker who hates you comes up and purposely pours their soda over your head itching for a fight. You can either give him what he wants, which is an excuse to beat the shit out of you. Or you can just peace out and let the cops deal with it. You would be the victim, you would certainly be morally justified in responding with violence, but should you? How does it benefit you to do so?

It's very different than a rape victim situation. While it's absolutely true that anyone should try to avoid dangerous situations, but walking around alone at night isn't in any manner wrong, you aren't antagonizing anyone, in that case while you might expect bad things to happen, it's a very different thing than going around intentionally trying to start shit.

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Take something else not verbal at all. Some mother fucker who hates you comes up and purposely pours their soda over your head itching for a fight. You can either give him what he wants, which is an excuse to beat the shit out of you. Or you can just peace out and let the cops deal with it. You would be the victim, you would certainly be morally justified in responding with violence, but should you? How does it benefit you to do so?

Can show that you will not be pushed any further and can stop future abuse even if you lose. Sometimes violence is the answer, sometimes being the "bigger man" and walking away just puts a big fucking "kick me sign" over your head.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Violence is sometimes the answer. Usually in response to violence itself.

Words are not violence, neither is silence, despite the rhyme.

sometimes being the "bigger man" and walking away just puts a big fucking "kick me sign" over your head.

Maybe but I tend to think the message is more something along the lines of "you are so far beneath me it's not worth the trouble to awknoledge your existence".

[–]wylanderuk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Words are not violence, neither is silence, despite the rhyme.

Yup they are not, but sometimes they are a justifiable excuse/reason. But I will point out that if the person that starts the verbal altercation generally in my eyes loses virtually all of the justification because they started it.

sometimes being the "bigger man" and walking away just puts a big fucking "kick me sign" over your head.

Maybe but I tend to think the message is more something along the lines of "you are so far beneath me it's not worth the trouble to awknoledge your existence".

It is always situational, if its a one off interaction? Then yeah trying to disengage is probably the best response, but of its a pattern of behaviours that will continue that puts it in a different light. At lest in my eyes.