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[–]ClassroomPast6178 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

It’s a disingenuous argument with regards to gender woo. It’s a valid argument in regards other things, for instance, two dudes consensually fucking each other does nothing to harm you or anyone else (cheating excepted).

The trouble with using it for the gender woo shit is that it ignores all the ways that it is actually harming others. Being forced to lie is harmful, and calling men women is a blatant lie - everyone knows it. Surgical interventions and endocrine disruption are both harmful. Suppression of academic investigation is harmful. Using the law to enforced your dogma is harmful.

[–]DisgustResponse 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

two dudes consensually fucking each other does nothing to harm you or anyone else (cheating excepted).

False. Sodomites are vectors of both disease and social decay (child molestation, familial breakup, depressed birth rates, irreligiosity). These WILL affect you even if you have no direct interaction with them.

[–]Dragonerne 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

both disease and social decay (child molestation, familial breakup, depressed birth rates, irreligiosity)

Please provide sources if you have some and it is best if they are normie friendly, so I can share them more easily

[–]Dzonatan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Disease - Check out monkeypox demographics.

Social Decay - Look who has the most house abuse cases (Hint: Lesbians)

Child Molestation - Baleciaga, Cuties etc

Familial Breakup - Would you stick around with someone who fucks around? I wouldn't.

Depressed birth rates - Check last data on birth index. The countries with most promiscuity are below 2.1

Irreligiosity - One thing I dont see an issue with because I dont need a bible to figure out that you shouldn't do upon other what you wish not be done upon you.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you read the Bible in its original languages there's only one single negative remark about homosexuals, Romans 1:18-27. Viewing it more as a punishment for doing bad things, meant to shame the person, and not necessarily evil in and of itself. It was not in the original manuscript (of 1:19-2:11, everything except 2:2's "We know that the judgement of God is according to truth" was added by a later scribe).

[–]BISH 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being forced to lie is harmful.

There's no evading this fundamental reality. It's a snowballing ethical compromise.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Surgical interventions are usually helpful. Too many people get do them by mistake, but luckily those people are usually like "sex doesn't exist it's a social construct so there's no need to transition".

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nah, the best studies show suicide attempts go up after surgery.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stats I've seen say there's a temporary honeymoon period where the person is pleased. Something like up to 5 years. After that the rates shoot back up. Also note that all the studies I've seen linked which claim that transition works usually only look at a couple years after surgery or up to 5ish years so they use real numbers to cloud the true effect which comes down the line.