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[–]alladd 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

LOL they don't have any compelling arguments. I love watching how fast they devolve into emotional appeals. An actual moderated debate with an AGP would be utter disaster which is why it isn't gonna happen.

It's always the same low effort brainless shit about "do what we want or we suicide". A guy does that to his wife, threatens to kill himself unless she stays, it's called being a controlling fuck, but when pervs in skirts want titty skittles it's a national mental health crisis. I say do it.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Consequently threatening suicide is the ultimate emotional appeal and bad debate tactic. Either your opponent does actually want you dead and will be disappointed when you don't follow through with your bluff. Or it gives them the perfect win "Look this person is clearly disturbed, I'm ending the debate immediately and getting them institutionalized for their own safety"

So if you're going along with someone who is smart you'll either wind up dead or institutionalized and tank your credibility regardless. It's a lose lose strategy and the only times it seems to work is when your opponent realized you are crazy and just stops interacting with you because they don't want the drama.

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think the reason they do it is because the general public doesn't have a very nuanced understanding of suicide and just sort of defaults to "I guess it means they should get whatever they want."

Everyone thinks the solution to the world's suicide problem is MORE sympathy, as if we're not aware enough of it, as if our current public take is "Fucking do it." We cannot get any softer about it.

What about laying the blame at the foot of the suicidal person who leaves behind a streak of unimaginable trauma on their family forever because they couldn't have great sex? It's beyond the realm of possibility and oh so mean to say, but I think these people are emotional terrorists.