XENOGENDER"There are more than 2 genders"

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    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Gender does exist but it is true enough it's a fuzzy concept that changes from culture to culture and from language to language. Some languages have more than 2 genders but usually they are ascribing some kind of gendered status to non-human things that are totally irrelevant to any kind of identity. Some languages don't have gender at all and didn't even have sex specific pronouns as such. Chinese has only one third person pronoun for men women and inanimate objects. He her and it are the same word only differentiated in writing due to the need to translate foreign languages and modern influence. Yet that doesn't mean they had no concept of "gender" nor an understanding of biological sex.

    Whatever you want to call people humans are still essentially divided into only two sexual categories. Those who can get pregnant "Female" and those who can impregnate "Male", and you can't swap from one to the other although you can certainly remove that function so you can't do either.

    There is some minority of people who due to mutation have indefinite or poorly developed sexual function. Some are still capable of reproduction even if they have some kind of issue, though such reproduction only can be accomplished alongside their chromosomal sex afaik. Someone with XY chromosomes cannot get pregnant. Someone with XX chromosomes cannot impregnate. Perhaps there are extreme edge cases where this isn't the case but I'm yet to he aware of them.

    What we call sex reassignment surgery is better referred to as gender appearance surgery. One cannot change their reproductive function to that of the opposite sex they can only prevent it's function. We use language like "correcting their sex" which I don't see far off from the euphemism we use when we say we are getting our pets "fixed".

    [–]Datachost 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    It's what Germaine Greer said a few years ago: Female is sex and that's real. Feminine is gender and that's unreal. Gender certainly exists in the sense of a classification system we use to put certain actions or behaviour into the masculine/feminine box. But we don't have to. And really that should be the post-modernist take on gender, but it isn't, because of a mixture of fetishists wanting their fetish legitimised and a bunch of fuckwits who were taken in by their pseudo-philosophical bullshit about how sex doesn't really exist.

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I tend to agree. I see this idea that people who show behaviors which are atypical of their sex as a sign that they are actually the opposite sex quite regressive.

    It's very much the difference between "women can't box because they are dainty flowers" which is sexist nonsense, and "women can't box against men because if the men don't hold back she'll die" which is objective reality you can go test yourself if you have a death wish.

    [–]Datachost 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It seems to be another case of society finding a middle ground difficult. We've gone from "Behaviour should change to suit biology" to "Biology should change to suit behaviour" and completely missed the sensible solution of "Biology is biology and shouldn't be needlessly fucked with. Behaviour may be linked to it in some ways, but people shouldn't be punished for stepping outside of those trends"

    [–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I doubt most of society understands it well which leads to people taking extreme takes. Traditional gender rolls exist for good reason and aren't necessarily bad since the majority will follow them happily but there's no reason why individuals should be forced to follow them should they wish otherwise. Likewise there are cases where biology alone can cause bad outcomes for people and in such cases messing with it isn't necessarily wrong, but it's not something you want to mess with haphazardly without fully understanding the risks and trade offs. Honestly I think messing with social norms is similar. I think the wisdom of Ecclesiastes often reigns true from a study of history. There is nothing new under the sun. While we shouldn't blindly hold to traditions if we find new better ways of doing things, the argument that traditions are bad because they are old fashioned isn't a good one to me. These traditions exist for a reason, maybe that reason is a bad one and we should change it, but unless we actually understand the reason why beyond "it's old fashioned" I think we risk causing problems we can't foresee, perhaps problems that people in the past solved with such traditions.

    [–]FourteenDigitz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The extreme edge cases you’re looking for are linked to the SRY gene, which is normally attached to the Y chromosome and whose activation triggers the testosterone hormone wash that creates a male. The misfiring of the SRY gene can create XX males and XY females.

    [–]Datachost 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    To my knowledge though XX males don't produce viable sperm, nor do XY females tend to have a uterus/ovaries. At least people with CAIS don't.

    [–]r2d2_21 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Missing from the shitpost: the fact that 35 of those 37 genders are different ways to discriminate against gay men.

    [–]clownworlddropout 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Think there are only 5 food groups? Well, let me introduce you to these cannibalistic tribes of New Guinea. 🤓

    [–]FlyingKangaroo 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Guy from the meme looks like Michel Foucault.

    [–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Except he’s not raping little boys, so it can’t be Foucault.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's like Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems:

    Either there are or there ain't, or we just don't know.

    It is a kinda pointless discussion when it's "cui bono" is either to heighten or to undermine privileges.

    [–]Adventurous_Ad6212 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Hippity hoppity the other 36 genders are property.

    [–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    i don't know why this is supposed to surprise anyone or prove anything. it's not at all hard to imagine that the same narcissistic pathology that causes trans people in the west could appear elsewhere. it doesn't take a miracle. usually just takes a little social isolation.