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[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No cat food that I know of, and hopefully no cat food ever.

The allium ones seem so hard to avoid. As do less common allergies where people think that someone is lying about it or don't list common allergens, there was a very sad case where a girl died due to no labelling on the packaging. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45623831 Which is not something I'd want anyone to experience if possible. I think for now products like this are a novelty and I don't object to trying it and it is sustainable. I think as another option it's good, but it shouldn't be the only option.

Interesting point that they aren't kosher, that's not something I would've thought about.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

As do less common allergies where people think that someone is lying about it or don't list common allergens

Suspicion isn't totally unfounded, people do lie about allergies. Remember the whole celiac fad?

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I mean I'd rather not risk killing someone personally. I think the best way I've seen it handled was when one of my friends was a chef and they just git the waiters to ask if it was an allergy or not liking it. Then mentioning if it was an allergy it'd take an extra 20-30 mins to decontaminate everything. Allergy people are happy it's being taken seriously, everyone else can just not have whatever it is on there.

Like you can suspect someone is faking but it's not something I'd want to mess around with considering the risk vs reward. If you're right you get some satisfaction I guess? If you're wrong you might kill them.

Not to mention the Celiac fad has been really helpful to people who actually have it. I know 2 who at least are happy it's increased the options and the quality of them. So not ideal but at least there's that?

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I mean I'd rather not risk killing someone personally. I think the best way I've seen it handled was when one of my friends was a chef and they just git the waiters to ask if it was an allergy or not liking it. Then mentioning if it was an allergy it'd take an extra 20-30 mins to decontaminate everything. Allergy people are happy it's being taken seriously, everyone else can just not have whatever it is on there.

Like you can suspect someone is faking but it's not something I'd want to mess around with considering the risk vs reward. If you're right you get some satisfaction I guess? If you're wrong you might kill them.

While you're right, and your example was great, you forget the other side of that coin:

The people who fake allergies because they just don't like something would, by and large, also be Karens who'd gloat at forcing others to be put out for their benefit. They'd love to see the chef forced to decontaminate everything, love seeing everyone else in the restaurant forced to wait for them [or even "It's too serious, even being in the room could trigger it. Take all these other people's food away! You won't? I...agg, I feel my mouth closing up, no, allergy...need EpiPen...i feel so cold...it's dark...hold my hand while I die, please...aaghghghghghghg"..., just to cause everyone else a worse time for their own benefit.

A person who truly has the allergy and could die from it would likely realize they have to outright leave because there's truly nothing that'd be safe for them if decontamination is in play.

[–]Haylstorm 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

From the sound of it most people were reasonable there, there was less of that and more sheepish saying they didn't like it because they really didn't like the wait. Def something that varies by place though. Everyone with an allergy was happy that it was being taken so seriously. Might vary by place then, my friends main experience of it is either genuine allergies, or people who don't like something who got annoyed at something not being removed when they asked for it so started saying it was an allergy to 'make sure' they wouldn't get it.

Obviously you're right if your allergies are that serious eating out anywhere is quite hard, hell for some anything not made by you personally can be hard due to companies/products having allergens in them. I think reasonable accommodation is fair if it can be managed but you're more likely to risk it if your condition isn't as serious I suppose.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, but that ties to the decontamination factor being the tiebreaker to show who the actual people with an issue are and who are Karens faking it: If your allergy is so serious that you need full decontamination to make sure you don't get it, your allergy is almost certainly so serious that just being in the restaurant or even handling their takeout bag/boxes would have already triggered it before the waiter even spoke to you. There's a reason that if a student has a peanut allergy, they need to completely block peanuts from anything in the school.