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[–]FuckMasks 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

There's an obvious reason for the bathroom preoccupation for these people.

Increased odds for child encounters.

Trans = molested at some point. And they will do the same given the opportunity.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Being abused doesn't lead to becoming an abusers, that's a myth.

Torturing animals as a child is far more likely to lead to a person becoming an abuser as an adult. These people are sadists not victims.

[–]chadwickofwv 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Most of them are both.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This simply isn't true.

Paedophiles make up stories of abuse to get sympathy and lighter treatment. When they a threatened with the lie detector most recant their stories.

https://theconversation.com/child-sex-abuse-doesnt-create-paedophiles-60373

The documentary The Confessions of Thomas Quick is also a good case study in the bizarre way psychologists promoted this theory.

Don't be a mug and believe compulsive liars.

[–]FuckMasks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly - they learned it somewhere.

Not to say all pedos are trans or were molested.

[–]filbs111 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

To be fair to that Noel guy, the accusastions don't include kids. Sounds like he's a bit of a creepy 'playa', which is frowned upon these days, but not really in the same league.

[–]Chipit[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Oh look! Someone defending sexual assault!

[–]Intuit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Go back to Reddit.

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You neither addressed nor refuted the point. Like most people here, I was banned from reddit for being a wrongthinker. Someone like you, defending these scumbags, would fit right in, though.

[–]Intuit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Oh, now you want reasoned arguments. You didn't in what I replied to:

Oh look! Someone defending sexual assault!

Also

And thanks for your attempted defense of rapists. "Oh, there aren't too many of them" said nobody ever.

Hence, go back to Reddit. You accuse me of defending someone, when you're mistaking people who are interested in the meta, of being accurate and truthful. They love your kind of approach of only seeing two possible positions on a matter, and any criticism of your writing as support of what you oppose. Wrongthinker? Hah.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The "meta" of rapists isn't something people jump out and defend. Begone, troll.

[–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (31 children)

I question the pattern a little bit.

In round numbers 200,000 US children (under 18s) are raped each year, and 1,000,000 are sexually assaulted.

Mostly in the 14-17 year age bracket, but maybe 100,000 in the 2-13 year old bracket are sexually assaulted.

So there must be a lot of people doing those 100,000 sexual assaults.
Is the fact that 3 are trans-activists really indicative of a trend?

(Numbers extrapolated from here)

[–]GConly 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

And then look at how phenomenally dodgy the TRA mods are on Reddit.

Then look at how many TERFs hav been busted for sexual assaults...none.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

And then look at how phenomenally dodgy the TRA mods are on Reddit.

Not following. How (and why) does one look at that?

Then look at how many TERFs hav been busted for sexual assaults...none.

Not sure what your point is here. TERF is a vanishingly small group. The term's an insult more than a political position.

[–]GConly 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

TERF is a vanishingly small group.

About 80% of the UK , when asked "is it okay for intact males who ID as women to be in women's changing rooms and prisons?" said no.

So most of us are functionally TERFs.

I've never seen a TERF make a death threat rape threat or get busted for child porn or sexual assault.

Not following.

Bardfinn, Chanellor, Drewiepoodle and one other called Katrina something. All shady as hell.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Bardfinn, Chanellor, Drewiepoodle and one other called Katrina something. All shady as hell.

And how does this affect the (lack of) link between trans activism and child rape?

[–]GConly 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Not the activism, so much as transwomen in general.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are not trans women in the top story. It claims a (tenuous) link between trans activisim and child rape.

There's no example of a trans woman who is a child rapist.

[–]GConly 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's no example of a trans woman who is a child rapist.

Jesus where have you been?

There's a bunch of pedo transwomen. There used to be a list of them on itsafetish. There's a list of child offending transactivists knocking around, it posted here a few days ago.

The only one I can recall that springs to mind is Katie Dolatowski. Although he technically isn't a rapist, because the little girl he bent over in the ladies loos managed to punch him in the nuts as he was pulling her trousers off.

Oh yes, and of the 60 transwomen in UK prisons for sex offences, 27 were rapists. So there's that.

[–]Der_DWSage 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You've got the TE, but not the RF. So no, that's not functionally TERFs, that's just mildly sane. TERFs are not the only ones allowed to object to trans activist insanity.

[–]Questionable 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Not all sexual deviants are trans, but all trans are sexual deviants. You're numbers are meant to hide this. As you well know.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Okay you've made a few mistakes.

First we're talking about child rape. "Sexual deviancy" includes fetishism, frotteurism, voyeurism, sexual masochism, sexual sadism and other paraphilias. They are not, to my knowledge, related to identifying as transexual.

Second the three people in the article were not transexual.

Third my numbers are to question whether three people can be called a trend in a country with about 999,997 people not known to be supportive of inter-gender or transgender people.

[–]Questionable 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Right. Because you define what a sexual deviancy is. And it's important to point out the difference between a trans activism that push the agenda as apposed to a trans person. And you are arguing the numbers, where as I am pointing out the flaw in you base logic.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Right. Because you define what a sexual deviancy is.

Not at all. The term has a definition. Sexual deviancy

And it's important to point out the difference between a trans activism that push the agenda as apposed to a trans person.

Agreed.

And you are arguing the numbers, where as I am pointing out the flaw in you base logic.

You haven't done that very clearly yet. What is the flaw in my base logic?

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You haven't done that very clearly yet. What is the flaw in my base logic?

The flaw in your base logic, is that you believe mutilating the genitals of children (transgenderism), and pumping them full of hormones, and puberty blockers, is a normal thing to do. You believe this is not a form of sexual deviance.

As for what you agreed with. You agreed with my statement on your own flawed point of view. As it was meant as an extension of the previous sentence. It should have read as follows:

"Right. Because you define what sexual deviancy is, and you feel it's important to point out the difference between a trans activist that pushes the agenda as apposed to a trans person."

Please forgive my typos. The flaw is, you neither understand sex, or what it means to be a deviant. Because you support sexual deviants. You support the sexual abuse of both children, and the mentally frail.

"Sexual deviancy" includes fetishism, frotteurism, voyeurism, sexual masochism, sexual sadism and other paraphilias."

Those things take place between consenting adults. Transgenderism is pushed on children and those with mental problems. "Sexual Deviance" is two words, not one, and those words are not defined by you.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The flaw in your base logic, is that you believe mutilating the genitals of children (transgenderism), and pumping them full of hormones, and puberty blockers, is a normal thing to do.

Nope. That's not my position.

Also it's not an example of an application of logic. Logic is the reasoning process to reach a conclusion given the premises. You're objecting to the premise. (Also one that I don't have, which is flawed logic. Specifically an erroneous argument by the straw man fallacy.)

Those things take place between consenting adults.

Many of them, yes.

Transgenderism is pushed on children and those with mental problems.

No, transgenderism refers to the broad spectrum of people who transiently or persistently identify with a gender different from their natal sex. The term doesn't mean anything about how to treat it.

And for that matter neither did the people in the article. Their position was on the provision of non-gendered bathrooms.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No. I'll take your word on that. And if you wish to offer up your position, feel free to.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

My position is that three people who are rapists doesn't, of itself, indicate a pattern.

To indicate a trend you would need to show that 3 is statistically significantly higher for this group than for the general population.

This hasn't been done, and given the numbers of child rapists in USA, I suspect that it's not true.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That checks out. But, a sexual deviant that advocates for the endangerment of children is just that. A sexual deviant. They don't need to physically touch a child to show their harmful intents. With that as a bases, the probability that someone who advocates the mutilation of a child's genitals, also has deviant sexual urges for them is inherent. You can not truthfully tell me otherwise.

No, transgenderism refers to the broad spectrum of people who transiently or persistently identify with a gender different from their natal sex.

Just FYI. Simply stating something doesn't make it a fact. Though you can corrupt entire nations by doing so. Would you care for me to quote you some One Piece anime fight logic for you? It's all perfectly logical in cannon. It's also, all pure fiction. And as a younger man, I also looked really hot in a dress. Yet at base, I knew then, that I was still a dude playing dress up. Just as I know now, that I can not stretch my arms like a rubber man.

In addition. there can be no spectrum if you are transitioning. To transition, is to go from one state to the other. You are either in transit, or your state is static. To constantly identify as being be in transit, is similar to a woman that can't stop breaking up with her boyfriends in order to relive past traumas. It is to live in a state of illness. You are either something, or you are nothing. You either possess self actualization, or you are a tool for others to posses.

I'm sorry. What was the topic again? And why does everything smell like copperᴉ?

[–]Chipit[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

These are a continuation of a trend. People are starting to notice. And thanks for your attempted defense of rapists. "Oh, there aren't too many of them" said nobody ever.

[–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

These are a continuation of a trend. People are starting to notice.

Are they though. 3 people of 100,000 doesn't of itself imply that "trans activists" are over-represented.

And thanks for your attempted defense of rapists.

I didn't attempt to defend rapists. I questioned whether there was a trend wrt trans activists.

"Oh, there aren't too many of them" said nobody ever.

And neither did I. I do question whether finding that in the vicinity of 0.003% of rapists are of a particular group justifies claiming that that group tend to be rapists more than another group.

I mean 1,700 US priests and clergy are paedophiles, only counting those that currently living with no oversight from law enforcement.

Surely Christians are a much more significant trend than trans activists for rapists.

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The whataboutism is a dead giveaway that you're a paid social media influencer. Begone from this site, we're talking amongst ourselves.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If you don't want to interact with my posts, you're more than welcome not to. At this point I would encourage it.

The OP claims that there is a pattern emerging. I'm saying it's not clear that there's a pattern.

There are clearer patterns, if patterns is what you're looking for.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Chipit is quick to judge anyone he doesn't understand as a bot or a shill. he posts high quality links. Yet he just doesn't seem to get 'humans' very well. Nor does he wish to put too much thought to any point of view, he himself didn't generate.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The entire LGBTQ community is less than 1.6% of the population, yet they account for 40% of the pedophiles. And there's no pattern there?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1.6% seems pretty low.

The US gets about 4.5% from face to face studies and more from online studies.

40% is way too high. This paper gets 0% to 3.1% (95% confidence limits).

The pattern there, if anything, is that LGBTQ community are less likely to abuse children than the heterosexual community.

[–]Dadscloaca 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The trend of straight white men being Rapists of Pedophiles?

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Like Mohammed?

[–]Dadscloaca 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Caucasian includes light skinned Arabs, and considering that White people are a minority, the fact that ONE person had any melanin? And that the problem is still 100% straight cis men?

Yep, sounds about right.

[–]GConly 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Awww, Graham beat me to it.

[–]Dadscloaca 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

All of the people in the article you posted are Straight, white, heterosexual men...

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Boy this really hit a nerve, didn't it? I'll have to keep posting this article around.

[–]Dadscloaca 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That White straight men are pedophiles? Go for it.

[–]RippoffOfLove 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I lost all respect for Savage since I read that three-word tweet.