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[–][deleted] 25 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Transwomen want to be considered real women, and they get mad that while people are willing to play the gender pretend game, lesbians and straight guys don't want to have sex with them because they aren't biological women.

Which ya know would be one of those "so sad, too bad" things except people are slinging around the transphobia label over this, and people are sick of being called transphobic, threatened and harassed over their own sexual orientation.

Apparently lesbians have been dealing with this for years. They don't want "girldick" because they're lesbians. Telling a lesbian she should learn to love cock for trans individuals is pretty fucked up.

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Thanks. This helps, but if 'superstraight' is an alternative word for 'transphobic' or a similar term, it would seem that these words are still unnecessary. If intersex or trans-people or LGBTQ+ people want to engage with straight people, they merely have to ask. There's no need for special names or questions about identity. This decision or choice would depend entirely on the two (or more) people. One's sexual orientation is of course only their private concern, and discussed only if they feel like discussing it. So if straight people don't want to have sext with intersex people, I am sure this is easy to avoid, without discussing it at length online. And the same would be true of intersex people and who they want to have sex with. But perhaps I am missing other motivations at play here. Perhaps people want to enjoy exploring ideas about different kinds of sexuality online, without consideration of the abusive language they are using - a kind of virtual S&M, so to speak. Seems to be an unfulfilling substitute for physical relationships, however.

[–][deleted] 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

The core problem is trans advocates saying not being attracted to trans people is phobic. And any criticism is transphobic. They have a bully pulpit.

By making Superstraight a new gender identity for those who only want to have sex with people they're attracted to, it turns the tables. It frames the discussion in a new light. If this is a valid gender identity then who are transgender advocacy groups to call it "transphobic," and if it's not a valid gender identity, then who decides which gender identities are valid. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

It's a really weird situation to even need something like this, but this gender identity crap has gotten out of hand and people are sick of having to cater to it. And the only reason trans people care is cause they wanna get laid, it's a lot like incels.

[–]FediNetizen 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

it's a lot like incels.

Lol, not sure how much time you've spent in Gender Critical circles, but they have a name for these "lesbians" that rage post online about how lesbians not wanting their dick is transphobic: trancels.

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trancels

I've just been learning about that. I had no idea lesbians were putting up with this shit. Kinda sad nobody cared until it became an issue for men.

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The TERF label that the trancels put on us all but insured that. The woke left won't want to listen to anyone called transphobic and most right wingers want nothing to do with radical feminists.

It didn't matter that most of these lesbians weren't transphobic or radical feminists, they just didn't want to deal with girldick bullshit. The moment that name was branded on us we were essentially pariahs to all sides of the discussion.

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radical feminists

Maybe it's because of all this, driving normal folk to them, but the "radical" feminists seemed not so radical to me. When I think a true radical feminist I think manhater. And some are, and I don't blame men for not wanting to be around that.

Or is it just an alliance of convenience, the enemy of my enemy.

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The TRAs chased a bunch of women into Radical Feminism with their attacks on women's rights and especially a lot of lesbians end up there. Women who otherwise wouldn't be in the radical feminist camp. TRAs are the greatest recruiters for radical feminism.

I don't agree with radical feminists on some things, but I 100% agree with them on the gender ideology.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Some radfems hate men that is true but not all of them. The "radical" part refers to the old meaning of the word radical, relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something, because it's an older movement. So the radical refers to that they see women's biology as the root of women's oppression.

So the gender ideology of men can be women, to them is insulting as men (the oppressor) are identifying into their oppression.

Kind of like a white man in the US identifying as a black man , start behaving like an awful stereotype of how black men (ghetto speak, gang signs) are and complains about being oppressed as a black man.

It's incredibly insulting to them. And frankly with that i agree.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kinda sad nobody cared until it became an issue for men.

Actual lesbians were ahead of the curve on this, because they were the first to have to deal with these waves of new "lesbians" demanding access to their spaces. The reason it was a new thing, even though transsexuals have been around forever, is that there is more than one "type" of transsexual: autogynephiles (AGPs), and homosexual transsexuals (HSTSs).

Historically it was the HSTSs that were a part of the LGBT rights movement, but now that there is mainstream acceptance the community is becoming dominated by the AGPs. The whole AGP typology is interesting and might explain a lot if you happen to have any trans "lesbians" in your social circle. I recommend reading this excellent article "The Elephant in the Room" that explains how AGPs are causing strife within the LGBT community.