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[–]FediNetizen 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

it's a lot like incels.

Lol, not sure how much time you've spent in Gender Critical circles, but they have a name for these "lesbians" that rage post online about how lesbians not wanting their dick is transphobic: trancels.

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trancels

I've just been learning about that. I had no idea lesbians were putting up with this shit. Kinda sad nobody cared until it became an issue for men.

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The TERF label that the trancels put on us all but insured that. The woke left won't want to listen to anyone called transphobic and most right wingers want nothing to do with radical feminists.

It didn't matter that most of these lesbians weren't transphobic or radical feminists, they just didn't want to deal with girldick bullshit. The moment that name was branded on us we were essentially pariahs to all sides of the discussion.

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radical feminists

Maybe it's because of all this, driving normal folk to them, but the "radical" feminists seemed not so radical to me. When I think a true radical feminist I think manhater. And some are, and I don't blame men for not wanting to be around that.

Or is it just an alliance of convenience, the enemy of my enemy.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The TRAs chased a bunch of women into Radical Feminism with their attacks on women's rights and especially a lot of lesbians end up there. Women who otherwise wouldn't be in the radical feminist camp. TRAs are the greatest recruiters for radical feminism.

I don't agree with radical feminists on some things, but I 100% agree with them on the gender ideology.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Some radfems hate men that is true but not all of them. The "radical" part refers to the old meaning of the word radical, relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something, because it's an older movement. So the radical refers to that they see women's biology as the root of women's oppression.

So the gender ideology of men can be women, to them is insulting as men (the oppressor) are identifying into their oppression.

Kind of like a white man in the US identifying as a black man , start behaving like an awful stereotype of how black men (ghetto speak, gang signs) are and complains about being oppressed as a black man.

It's incredibly insulting to them. And frankly with that i agree.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kinda sad nobody cared until it became an issue for men.

Actual lesbians were ahead of the curve on this, because they were the first to have to deal with these waves of new "lesbians" demanding access to their spaces. The reason it was a new thing, even though transsexuals have been around forever, is that there is more than one "type" of transsexual: autogynephiles (AGPs), and homosexual transsexuals (HSTSs).

Historically it was the HSTSs that were a part of the LGBT rights movement, but now that there is mainstream acceptance the community is becoming dominated by the AGPs. The whole AGP typology is interesting and might explain a lot if you happen to have any trans "lesbians" in your social circle. I recommend reading this excellent article "The Elephant in the Room" that explains how AGPs are causing strife within the LGBT community.