Western Europe UK Student barred from free speech debate for saying ‘women don’t have penises’

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[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

And those conditions haven't prevented him from speaking.

He has not been prevented from speaking. The Student Union merely strongly recommended against him being there without security involved since they reckoned his presence was going to cause disturbance.

Ultimate proof: He was there. Therefore, he was not prevented from speaking. Therefore, he was not barred.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Okay, so originally banned, but allowed due to outcry would be what this was. Had no one mirrored, and spoken up, he would've not been allowed. Even as the post event article that showed him there, it stated he was 'allowed on stage', it never even said, 'hey, the libtard student union apologizes for trying to ruin the students event, and we apologize even further as we know what we did, actually cost participation in the event due to people thinking this speaker was banned'.... NOPE, NOT A MENTION. I'm glad they allowed him to attend.

Having that said though, everyone one of the articles you linked to, backed up that he was indeed 'conditionally banned'. You can shorten that to banned, and then once you read the definitions of banned, the wording was proper. I mention this, as I read through every link you provide.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I'm not sure why the titles of the articles said "banned", unless the society felt that the union was ordering them to ban him. What I've heard from interviews has been firmly on the "not-banned" side.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It probably said banned, as the university used that wording, as well as the man who was 'banned'; he also used it.

I don't think there's much of an issue with the word banned, in this context. The bat-s***-crazy liberals, know to publicly demonize events like this.

While what they did actually garnered more attention, and did result in the man 'being allowed on stage', but how many people did it detour from the actual event?

Due to the student unions actions, how many didn't attend? How many pertinent questions, or answers were never spoken?

It's not a freak occurrence what was done in the situation outlined in the article. It's somewhat of a common ploy by the far gone liberal left.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You're asking questions. You should know that I'm not omniscient. Do the research, call the people, gather the data. That's how to find the answers.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I think we've all seen 'absolute fact' in journalism, where even the experts agree that the topic turns out to be contrived. I'm trying to comprehend where you're coming from; as you seem to dismiss topics based off of wording used, rather than what potential merit is there.

My questions were directed towards you; as in our current state in time, the regular journalists, the ones paid to lie, and now that are learning to code(LOL), well, we're seeing their lies unfold everywhere. Also, I think it is somewhat an effect of the same, but it seems like it's becoming common for people to raise a stink over things that would've never been issues; without modern society 'creating' a reason to make them such.

Oh, and thanks for letting me know your not omniscient.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

as you seem to dismiss topics based off of wording used, rather than what potential merit is there

Ah, here's the confusion. I'm not dismissing the topics; I'm dismissing the articles. They're being misleading. Sure, he might've been banned, but he attended and nobody stopped him and honestly it wasn't as big of a thing as it was reported to be. I don't know why it made international news.

This version of the article, however, was copied and pasted almost verbatim across the web. I have no idea why, and it's frustrating that one side of a four-sided story (at least!) is the only one to be reported, because an isolated incident is being seen as part of a pattern of free-speech suppression when none exists. (Seriously? Western Europe UK Student? Is the UK suddenly in Eastern Europe? Next you'll be saying New Zealand isn't on the map at all!)

it seems like it's becoming common for people to raise a stink over things that would've never been issues;

Yeah. I really don't know why we're arguing over this.

Edit: Deleted word "none" for accuracy. This was unclear hyperbole, and does not sufficiently reflect reality.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I absolutely realize what you're doing, and others do to.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

? Please explain. It's possible that I'm completely delusional and so am making claims that don't follow on from each other; please let me (and those who aren't in the "others" you state) in on this secret.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

" I have no idea why, and it's frustrating that one side of a four-sided story (at least!) is the only one to be reported, because an isolated incident is being seen as part of a pattern of free-speech suppression when none exists. (Seriously? Western Europe UK Student? Is the UK suddenly in Eastern Europe? Next you'll be saying New Zealand isn't on the map at all!)"

Why do people mirror, and are uber vigilant at any mention of the leftist censoring of society? You obviously say it doesn't exist, yet you, yourself are on a site that I believe is a creation of what you'd call a non existent issue is it not? Is Saidit not a creation due to Reddit censoring?

What of the multitude of video sites that are springing up due to Youtube's censoring policies? What of alternative payment platforms that are half ass trying to start up to combat the defunding of people's hardwork, and sites??

What of browsers, and host companies pulling the plugs of websites due to what you say doesn't exist?

lol