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[–]d3rr 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why are they jacking the name of Ben Swann's show? https://www.youtube.com/user/BenSwannRealityCheck/videos

I guess the more reality checking the better.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Is she saying that we should use AR-15s on illegal aliens because no one is keeping track?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This post is a double red herring. Here are some actual facts.
A) The woman speaking in the video starts her immigration assertion with the following statement:

Now it's impossible to know how many Americans are murdered by illegal aliens each year, but...

  • She gave up on on facts before she finished her initial remarks.
  • PR propaganda points for putting a dark haired woman's face on the argument.

B) Banning assault rifles within the next two years is impossible.

  • Trump will veto any bill.
  • Conservative voters see the writing on the police-state wall, and won't allow it (the naive liberals would love to).
  • NRA lobby has a singular issue focus and supporters who vote in primaries

C) Illegal immigration (by arrival) has been steadily declining since 2006, and is currently near the an all-time low. So why is this an issue of public concern?

  • Red herring
  • Red herring
  • Red herring

This is an racist argument that gave up on the facts from the very beginning. There are plenty of legit issues. Let's discuss them.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

mmmmm, illegals get away with murder all the time; it is distorted how these crimes are reported, are you seriously saying it's a non issue?

As far as guns, I cannot really tell where you're coming from, but again, the statistics that govern gun violence are also skewed, and actually stacked against guns the way in which most are presented.

The woman at least as far as I could tell, was trying to show 2 subjects, that both are victim to skewed statistics, but apparently so blatantly, that she got her point, and I for the most part got it; I'm sure others do as well.

[–]SundogsPlace[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

good logic

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Data"? This is a video of a woman talking about immigration and gun rights.

This is not data. This is propaganda.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean rifles kill like what, 150-300 people a year. And the AR-15 is a sub-set of a rifle, so I'd imagine that, yes, there is a possibility ilelgals do kill more people a year in the US than murders from a person with a scary black ar-15. But there's no data to back this up in the video, so I'll have to research. Seems plausible though.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can imagine their thought process: Illegal Aliens kill n people a year. Guns... too many. Rifles... still too many. AR-15... few enough! Ok, people: we have a story.