PSA: We all fell for an obvious lie.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

This is not true.

The user used the Windows "Snip Tool" and red marker to circle. This feature is on every PC that has Windows 8, or later. That's a layup.

That's a suspicious statement coming from you. I thought you were familiar with computers, and offered to help the admins with code?

The shown portion was taken out of context and used to misrepresent the law. That is, in my book, doctoring.

Also false. It was not taken out of context. The bill is legit, and it contains the info from the screenshot. That is a fact. That is not doctoring.

Using doctored as a description is "an obvious lie".

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You've got a Windows machine too? Well, could you use Problem Steps Recorder (or a third-party screen recording software) to demonstrate the process of taking a similar screenshot, please? I don't expect you to do the red circles stuff.

I do know how computers work, but I wasn't using that knowledge when I determined that the image isn't possible to produce just by taking a screenshot. I was merely observing that the law only scrolls up and down, but the text was moved sideways.

(Though, doctoring aside, it's still misrepresentation to take the extract of the law out of context. Your apparent fixation on the process of doctoring suggests that you're trying to poke one hole in part of my argument and say that that brings the whole thing down. It doesn't. The doctoring bit was tacked on afterwards, and the argument stands without it.)

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Go to your PC programs menu search bar.
Type in "snip tool".
Press enter.

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

… That's not what I asked and you know it. It doesn't prove your argument in the slightest.

My argument stands.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Well, if anyone else wants to look up the snipping tool then they can.

It will appear in they're search box before the word "snipping' can be typed in.

Your argument is baseless and dishonest. Nothing was out of context.

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

The snipping tool allows you to take screenshots, and allows you to doctor them. Assuming /u/Orangutan used Snipping Tool to do this, you still haven't shown that it's not doctored.

This is an attempt to distract from the argument. You're providing irrelevant evidence that doesn't support your assertions. I'm sorry, but that won't work here.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It's not a distraction.

I am debunking your fraudulent claim about doctoring photos.

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You're not doing a good job.

If I asserted that, instead of Snipping Tool, he used Microsoft Paint, how would that affect whether it was doctored? What about Photoshop? GIMP? PaintShop Pro? PowerPoint?

…

Ok. I'll hear you out, despite being fairly certain the argument doesn't follow. Please explain how using Snipping Tool means you haven't modified the screenshot.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Modification is different than falsifying or doctoring something for your own personal benefit.

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

True. But this falls under both categories, I think, since the modification served to misrepresent the law.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nothing was falsified. Nothing was doctored.

[–]wizzwizz4[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Nothing was falsified. Nothing was doctored.

How is your argument any different to the "vaccines are safe and effective" you so often criticise (apart from the evidence about the vaccines)?

You're being hypocritical. I can't imagine the amount of cognitive dissonance there must be in your head for you to not have noticed that by now.