Pixar exec on Light-year flop. "We asked too much of the audience" Implying audiences were too stupid to understand premise of the movie as reason for failure. As opposed to other reasons, such as controversial content, or simply being another boring rehash.

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[–]Alienhunter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I thought it was fine. Not bad, not great, but fine. I can't say much positive about it other than the graphics being good (and as a Pixar movie that's a given)

The "woke content" isn't particularly interesting or substantial. It's basically the "throwaway gay character cameo that is designed to be irrelevant to the plot and can easily be cut out of the middle eastern and Chinese markets" trope. Granted the buzz (pun intended) surrounding the film was probably detrimental to it's performance and I don't know how the executive here can be oblivious to that. Or perhaps he simply can't state the obvious that about half the US market for a children's movie is going to be deeply offended by the two second gay character reference.

I think the main reason for the movies failure is that it isn't very interesting a concept or draw. It feels very sterile and corporate in it's existence. It's taking an existing character that everyone knows and going on a by the numbers formulaic science fiction adventure designed to evoke the spirit of better movies you'll be reminded of while watching it. So the question is when you get the star wars or aliens references sprinkled throughout you think "hmm I remember that movie, I wish I was watching that instead" rather than the "wow amazing" feelings the movie should be trying for.

The studio execs seem more or less tied to this idea here that the movies plot was too hard to follow or the concept confused audiences. I'm sure they've done market research here so they might be right, perhaps the target audience for this movie are stupid Americans. But I think the whole "they don't understand the concept" is pretty much underestimating the intelligence of the audience. I don't think it's so much the audience can't get the idea that "it's the movie the toy was supposed to be based on" that's easy, it's that the audience doesn't care about "Buzz Light-year " the character, who is already just a mix of sci-fi tropes anyway. They care about "Buzz Light-year" the toy. Since the character the toy was based on is entirely uninteresting.

For me I think they could have done without that whole opening bit where they were like "Andy saw a movie and bought a toy, this was that movie" that was fucking stupid and insults the audiences intelligence in the first 5 seconds or so. But it also makes Andy look like a retard. Why would he be obsessed with this movie instead of something like, aliens, star wars, terminator? There's better Sci-fi movies out there.

This movie just doesn't have a good reason to exist. Pixar has lost creative steam and is going through the tired spin off and sequel phase. I can make those pitches in my sleep. Woody the cowboy spinoff movie? Lame. Incredibles prequel staring the superheroes that all got murdered? Lame.

Wall-E prequel showing who built Wally? Lame.

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Monsters Inc: Childhood Drama. A now adult Boo works for a secret government agency that is preparing to invade the monster world and put an end to their Comedic Antics following the death of humor in modern society.

Hmm. Maybe that last one.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Any country that cuts Gay characters out of movies needs to be fucking nuked.

[–]Alienhunter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That would be Hollywood cutting the gay characters out for the foreign market. Otherwise their movies would either be refused classification of rated for adults.

For example there was that story where light-year was supposedly banned in Indonesia for the gay content. That story wasn't true, Disney had simply refused to submit the movie for classification so it wasn't allowed to be shown same as every other movie there. Had they submitted it uncut, the gay characters would have given it a higher equivalent to PG-13 or R rating. Which of course would kill a children's film.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At least now we know which countries to drop bombs on next. We never should’ve ended the war on terror, and we should have done to camel jockeys what FDR did to the japs for allying with krauts and wops.