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[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

When you're living in a trench or defending a ruined city.

And you hear how the invaders have raped your relative in the east or kidnapped your neighbor's kids to Siberia.

Or you hear how another town has been wiped off the map by the orcs.

Or you hear how another mass grave of Ukrainian citizens has been unearthed in a formerly-occupied area.

Or you hear how overnight, the invaders fired another cruise missile at a hospital or clinic.

If you were a Ukrainian soldier experiencing a ruzzian invasion you would not turn your weapon on your own commander. You'd want to expel the invader from your native land and reclaim your people's dignity.

So take you "true enemy" nonsense and stick it. The true enemy is the rapist horde of asiatic catsaps screaming over the horizon. The ten thousand dothraki screamers recruited from the blatnye thieves-in-law.

Ruzzia will be overthrown and it will turn back into Muscovïa, Chuvash, Ingushetia, Sibir and so on. Then the Ukrainians can figure out their own country, and you can stay out of it, because after fifteen months of rashist occupation they have deserved you shutting the fuck up about your internet conspiritard nonsense

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    [–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    There's no cassus belli

    How about "get the invaders the fuck out of my country"?

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      [–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You mean the 200k+ dead orcish suckers from conducting meat waves in a foreign country?

      [–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      People fight in response to imagined outcomes. Even though what you say is the accurate picture of all warfare (wealthy interests ordering poor men to their deaths so that the wealthy can maintain their "interests"), people fight because their imagined alternative - which is being taken over by their enemies - is even scarier. For the history of humanity, soldiers have always fought in a permanent state of 'better the devil you know that that other devil'. For Ukrainians, the Russian devil is the current occupant of their nightmares. For Russians, the US/Davos devil is that occupant.

      It takes a LOT of abuse from the current devil before that dynamic can be broken. It happens occasionally (1917 Russia, for example), but it's a remarkably consistent response. Human nature hasn't changed, just the technologies we use to slaughter each other.

      [–]Tarrock 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      One of the big Ukrainian commanders was killed just this week by his own men. Wish I would've saved the video of it, but I've got no where to post gore, so I didn't. But yeah, they're starting to figure it out, especially the ukrainians since they know they can't win.

      [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The uncensored video is on WPD and voat, if you scroll back a day or two. Company commander shot the battalion commander in the head when he insisted they should go get slaughtered on the front to defend Ukrainian torture murderers. There was some praise from his prospective victims.