Let's bring someone with HIV into the pig pile

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[–]Conqueeftador 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Every time I get even a small glimpse into the goings-on of the poly community, I appreciate my traditional monogamous marriage even more. It might not be everyone's idea of an exciting life, some people would even call me vanilla for being happy with just one man. Maybe I am boring, but at least I'll never have to worry if I missed my daily dose of the hardcore medication I have to take to avoid catching AIDS from a dynamic roster of sexual partners 👍🏼

[–]jet199[S] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Frankly if you look at how these poly people organise their relationships, literally with rotas and contracts, I can't think of anything less exciting. This person is having a week long discussion with their lovers over whether to fuck someone or not when that should be an instantly instinctual reaction. And apparently that's considered consensual when it's clear they don't want to and have to be talked/pressured/guilted into it.

Just layers and layers of bullshit to avoid intimacy and vulnerability.

[–]Alienhunter 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I look at these sorts of posts and just laugh at how stupid it is. People are free to live their lives how they want, but it's like they have to ask the internet for a fucking concensus to their own choices like they are some Borg drone or something.

Polycule social dynamics being generally unstable notwithstanding. The answer to this is fucking obvious. Don't bring someone with HIV into your sex circle unless you want everyone to catch HIV. We're I somehow ok with this polygamous situation and one of the partners was going to say "hey we are bringing an HIV positive person into the sex pile" I'd be like, no you aren't or I'm done. Actually I'd not even give them the chance to choose no, if they are asking they've already had sex with them, so you just leave, unless you want HIV.

And if you're the one asking "how do I introduce the HIV positive person into the polycule in a way that won't break it" you are too retarded to have sex anyway.

[–]Conqueeftador 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Only bigots are afraid of HIV! Come on people it's 2023, StIgMaS aRe OuTdAtEd

Literally, that is the sentiment in that thread. Inclusivity now means being willing to catch an incurable disease to avoid making the carrier feel bad.

Mindboggling.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Only bigots are afraid of HIV! Come on people it's 2023

This but unironically. HIV is not the AIDS of 1990. Its a manageable disease like Hep B, herpes, chlamydia.

Inclusivity now means being willing to catch an incurable disease to avoid making the carrier feel bad.

If someone you loved -- wife, husband, son, daughter -- caught an incurable infectious disease, one which cannot be cured but can be managed, what would you do? Abandon them and move on?

"Sorry hubby to hear that you caught hepatitis B from a blood transfusion, but you're dead to me now."

"Son, sorry to hear about your Zika caught while on a tour of duty in Africa, but I can never see you again."

I can just feel the waves of love flowing off you.

[–]Conqueeftador 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes cause not wanting to be infected with an incurable disease means I will definitely abandon sick loved ones. I've had friends who died of AIDS, it may be "manageable" nowadays but I still don't want it. Just like I don't want hep B, chlamydia, herpes, or any other STD.

But that's fine, I'll add "doesn't want diseases" to the ever-growing list of things that make me a bigot.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I will definitely abandon sick loved ones.

Well at least you have admitted what sort of person you are.

[–]Conqueeftador 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lol well that's not the gotcha you think it is but thank you for such a perfect example of progressive thinking. Someone disagreed with you so you instantly jump to maligning their character by cherry-picking a snippet of a single comment, stripping out ALL relevant context and obvious sarcasm, then proudly present it as proof of your radically incorrect yet strongly held conclusions that anyone who disagrees with you is a Bad Person.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You literally said that you would "definitely abandon sick loved ones", because you don't want to catch the disease.

obvious sarcasm

Right, suuuure it was. (Now that's sarcasm.)

anyone who disagrees with you is a Bad Person.

No, just people who think that people who have manageable diseases don't deserve to be part of a loving relationship.

In this thread, people seem to have forgotten that we're discussing actual human beings who want to have a relationship, and you're saying that they are the bad people.

Fuck that.

[–]Conqueeftador 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yep. Sharing partners goes directly against our hardwired need for emotional intimacy. Every poly 'relationship' I've ever encountered- either online or in real life- has consisted of one narcissist incapable of functioning without a constant running tap of external attention and validation, their original partner who's so terrified to be alone that they just go along with whatever the other wants at the expense of both their mental and physical health, and a revolving cast of degenerate coomers taking advantage of both of them for meaningless sex. I have never once seen a 'polycule' consisting of mentally healthy, mature, emotionally secure people who all actively chose that arrangement without any coercion.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sharing partners goes directly against our hardwired need for emotional intimacy.

Because we are only capable of emotional intimacy with one single person in our life. If they die or leave, we'll never ever be able to move on and fall in love with another person. Gotcha.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

apparently that's considered consensual when it's clear they don't want to and have to be talked/pressured/guilted into it.

Apparently it's considered consensual when I go off to work too 🙁

Not all consent is enthusiastic consent. People often have to be convinced, talked, pulled, pushed, pressured, guilted and sometimes even threatened into doing things that they otherwise don't want to do.

I don't think that my wife wants to do the ironing, but she does it because somebody has to and that's how we agreed to divide up the chores.