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[–]AXXA 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

/u/NoMorePatriarchy /u/Jackalope /u/BossBrick I'm following up on our earlier discussion. This person is an example of a man that is invading women's spaces. He's a biological man that is showing great disrespect to women. He shouldn't even be posting on the 2X sub in the first place. His stated desire to shower with women is a sexual perversion. It's not at all about how he identifies but is instead about invading women's privacy. His response to being told this shows that he is delusional. He doesn't respect women so I don't respect him.

[–]Jackalope 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

His stated desire to shower with women is a sexual perversion.

It's not at all about how he identifies but is instead about invading women's privacy.

I suspect you might be right about this person, but it's hard to screen for motivation, and would this really make a difference to the women who have to shower with someone who was born as a man, and do not hold the same beliefs about the fluidity of gender?

What about a woman who is actually a woman, but is a lesbian, and desires to shower out of lust as well?

To me this is a much larger issue. There is a difference between tolerating something and being forced to participate in it, and I think that is what makes this problematic. This person is not actually a woman in the strict biological sense, and while people should tolerate a game of pretend, they should not be forced to participate in one. If society is going to have separate showers for males and females, people using those showers ought to be able to have the expectation that there will be only males/females in the shower, and should not be forced to give up that right. Otherwise it would make more sense to just have unisex showers and bathrooms, if we are all so enlightened now that we no longer care about this.

[–]spicebutton 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Are you going to acknowledge that he's a straight man, a heterosexual male such as yourself? And that he identifies as a lesbian? Are you going to acknowledge that 90% of these guys are straight guys such as yourself?

[–]Jackalope 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Are you going to acknowledge that he's a straight man, a heterosexual male such as yourself? And that he identifies as a lesbian? Are you going to acknowledge that 90% of these guys are straight guys such as yourself?

I have no idea. I also don't think it matters, they aren't women, so they shouldn't be showering in the women's room.

[–]spicebutton 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think we both understand that it matters a great deal. These people arent doing this because theyre gay. Over 90% of "trans" people tend to be heterosexual men such as yourself who are still attracted to women without an atom's worth of homosexuality within them.

This isnt some sort of new liberal ideology. Liberalism might create a permissive space to encourage this because liberals are "tolerant", but what traumatizes these men to do this is the psychotic ideology of heterosexualism that regulates how heterosexuals practice their gender identity.

Work on fixing that instead of looking for scapegoats. This has been going on since the 70's.

There are actual videos of these straight men who identify as "lesbians" beating gays and lesbians up at pride parades for not accepting them. Maybe show some sympathy towards heterosexual males and help them out so they dont turn out this way.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Unfortunately, this fetish usually starts when they are teenagers stealing their mother's or sister's underwear. What can you do you to stop it if no one knows it's happening. Personal choice is a factor here.

Also most of these guys have personality disorders. It's not just their environment, they have internal issues as well. If it wasn't dressing up as a woman it would likely be another fetish.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/

[–]spicebutton 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s heterosexualism. Of course heterosexuality is real but the ideology they attach to their sexuality to viciously regulate it leads to this.

These people are so easily defeated by trans rights activists because they want to pretend it’s just misogyny but then ignore that there’s an army of heterosexual women doing the same thing.

Personal choice is a factor. But it’s only a factor in choosing to express it or not.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It's a little bit insulting to straight men to cling to that line of argument IMO. I honestly suspect this person would have sex with a lot of different, uh... entities.

[–]spicebutton 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's a heterosexual male. Again, over 90% of these guys are heterosexual males. They dont have a molecule or even an atom's worth of homosexual attraction. They'd vomit at the thought of gay sex and theyre after women exclusively. This person is a straight male and this is what conservatism is hiding under the carpet. All liberalism does is create spaces where they allow these people to express themselves, and it's too kind and accommodating and gives permission for these people to become abusive.

Heterosexuality is real, but heterosexuality has an ideology attached to it. It's called heterosexualism. And this is what heterosexualism does to these people. The heterosexual mind is irredeemably reformed because of the way they grow up. You think gays are weird, just look at what these people act like when given the permission to be "free".

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Clearly these men who do this are fixated on the female body. I doubt 90% of them are solely interested in sexual contact with women, but I don't know that, and I also wouldn't conflate them with gay men.

Some of them probably are homosexually inclined men who'd rather be "trans" than "gay." It's new and hip and you get drugs. Is that not heterosexualism? It's homosexual erasure.

When it comes to using the word "straight" I think we have very different views. To you it almost seems to be a slur, but to me it's more like a title that comes from right conduct. I don't subscribe to this idea that people are born one way or the other and that a man who contemplates intimate contact with another man is irredeemably "gay." No, he has a choice in what he does, and he "is" what God made him: a man, designed to be with a woman, but capable of being tempted by disorder and expediency.

[–]spicebutton 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

...Theyre straight and want to fuck women.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think people who want to "fuck women" take estrogen. Those things are contradictory. You can't fuck women with a limp, atrophied little girl-penis.