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[–]wristaction 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (69 children)

Weird. I'm intrigued. You're a gang of trans shills sharing an account? Why?

[–]Keznen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (68 children)

We're not "shills" for supporting trans people.
My best friend is trans and I didn't even know until she told me. She's the most beautiful person I know inside and out, and she hates transtrenders and child-abusing fetish freaks like the ones in the link.

Keznen has existed for 5 years now. We have been close friends irl since childhood.

~ Tass

[–]wristaction 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (49 children)

Your friend is sick and you're his enabler.

[–]Keznen 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (48 children)

Nope, the only sick one is you with your unnatural hatred for a young girl you don't even know.

But have fun pretending you aren't a brainwashed moron. All you extremists are retarded no matter which side you're from.

~ Tass

[–]wristaction 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Without knowing him, I can't say I "hate" him. I represented that he's sick. As one ought to, I hate people who spread that sickness. I also noted that you're his enabler. You have a choice not to be this kind of person.

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

You disrespect her by misgendering her and claiming things about her when you don't even fucking know her. You insult her identity and claim she's diseased. You can try to tiptoe around it, but it's clear that you have an unnatural hatred for her and other trans people.

You are a disgusting individual and one deserving of hate, unlike me or her.

~ Tass

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

When you suggest that I can't know about your friend's problem without knowing him personally, you admit by implication that his transgenderism is a subjective thing. My perspective on this is a bit more grounded. I only claim to know that he's not a woman.

I also know that he is not a woman "on the inside", as it were, because no one but himself is privy to his internal experience. So it is with all of us, male and female alike; we are each the sole experiencers of each our physical beings, mind included. We are unable to leave our bodies and go experience the internalities of others' bodied experiences. Therefor it is impossible to "know" any such thing as that one inhabits the "wrong" body. It's yet more absurd to claim to know that a particular other kind of body is the "correct" body.

Really, all I know is what you represented to me. You've represented to me that your 18 year-old friend was able to get bottom surgery.

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She is a girl.

My best friend is 19. She knew she was a girl her whole life. Her parents were supportive of her and she lived as a girl without any medical interventions until she hit her early teens and got a puberty blocker. She later had that taken out, went on estrogen, and got surgery.

She is happy now. She never would've been happy if she were forced to live as a boy. In fact, she probably would've ended up committing suicide like so many other trans people who don't get the support they need and aren't allowed to transition.

She's not hurting anyone and just wants to live her best life and be happy. Why would you want to prevent someone's happiness?

You are against life if you want to prevent someone's happiness and bring about more suicides.

~ Tass

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's obvious nothing I can say will get through your thick skull, so either agree to disagree or let this argument continue until your wrists fucking break.

~ Tass

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Okay.

You shouldn't get so mad when people are just being straight with you.

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, you were aggressive in your reply.

Oh well, agree to disagree.

[–]wristaction 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

YOUR AN EXTREMIST

-- a literal group account for a tranny cult

[–]Keznen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Keznen was originally created offsite 5 years ago so we could have our The Lion King fanfiction in one place. We've since left the site we first created the group on, but we're still on multiple sites now.

And supporting trans people is not a cult, nor is my love and support for my best friend. You most likely don't even know what the word "cult" means.

~ Tass

[–]wristaction 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

our The Lion King fanfiction

gross.

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not smutty fanfiction. That shit's gross, we agree.

[–]ReeferMadness 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (36 children)

hatred for a young girl

I hesitate to even bother but the thought of another preteen kid being destroyed by leftist propaganda truly breaks my heart.

Please consider the following with as little prejudice as you can muster, I promise it is not coming from any kind of hate.

Every spectrum has a center. Everyone on a spectrum can be pulled in either direction to some extent. When you participate in affirming trans beliefs you are giving alcohol to a alcoholic. You are telling a schizophrenic that the voices they hear are real. You are pulling them in further into their psycosis.

Before evil gripped the world real psychologists treated gender dysphoria with therapy and literally 90% of preteen trans kids were cured by going through puberty. That is the vast majority CURED by being allowed to experience the natural hormones of their sex. This is being taken away from them with hormone blockers by people pretending to help them. Modern psychology is literally taking the natural cure they would experience without intervention away. Everything that psychologists say should be considered propaganda. They are not good people. They are not your friends. They are not trying to help.

If therapy alone could help 90%, then therapy with testosterone or estrogen according to the sex would likely be 100% effective.

Please stop participating in the greatest evil humanity has ever invented. Please stop helping them destroy these children.

The suicide rate for trans people, even those who have support is off the charts. The suicide rate for trans kids allowed to be cured by puberty is no higher than the general population.

Please stop.

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

She's 19 years old. She's also a centrist, like we are.

My best friend was cured by transitioning. She is happy now and never would've been if she'd not been able to transition.

~ Tass

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

As long as this isn't the result of hormone blockers and child grooming I'm relieved.

I would add, though, that happiness is a feeling and it's not true that you can't be happy if you didn't do a thing. As a kid there were many things I was terrified of and imagined i could never be happy if they happened, or in other cases didn't happen. When those things game to pass not in my favor I learned to be happy anyway. That you can't imagine being happy living with something you would rather not does not constitute proof that in fact happiness is not possible.

For example one might resurrect the now dead practice of therapy which helps people accept the body they have.

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

She had a puberty blocker but it was later taken out after she no longer needed it. She was not groomed, though. Everyone should agree that child grooming is wrong.

Gender Dysphoria is not the same as childhood fears. It's a difference in someone's brain.

Therapy isn't dead, but it doesn't cure or effectively treat Gender Dysphoria.

~ Tass

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

This is horrific. At this point you all have been conned and manipulated into making so many mistakes you are too deep to admit it was wrong.

Please dont do this to other children. Affirming gender dysphoria IS grooming.

Stop destroying lives.

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

No we haven't. The one who's been duped is you. You obviously follow propaganda made by the far right, which is just as bad as the far left.

We don't do anything to anyone. And no, it's not grooming.

You are destroying lives by preventing trans people from transitioning.

~ Tass

[–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

My best friend is trans and I didn't even know until she told me.

bwahahahahahaha, i love that kind of lie, just a gut rumbler

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (15 children)

He didn't know until he told him because his friend was a a 6 foot four quarterback who never looked at feminine stuff in his live except to mastubate into but then he found sissy hypno.

[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

i'd believe that. Sissy hypno is batshit. I think that the implication was that they were so fem that they passed, but we all know that is BS. spelling it out for the slow that might be reading.

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You've obviously never met a real trans person in your life.

If you want to see someone who's a similar case to my best friend, look up Kim Petras. It'd be a lie to say she doesn't look female.

~ Tass

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

sweetie. I was raped by a trans person

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Well that explains where your bias and hatred comes from.

Please go get therapy for your trauma and stop blaming all trans people for the actions of one.

My best friend didn't rape you, and Kim Petras didn't rape you either.

Rapists come in all shapes and sizes, but they are evil because they're rapists, not because of anything else.

Most trans people are not rapists. Most people are not rapists.

~ Tass

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

you are projecting, again.

trans people stick out like sore thumbs. Even the 'pretty' ones telegraph their DNA. I don't blame all trans people for the guy that raped me. he was a rapist. But feck pretending dudes are women. its just nonsense. If they have a cock, they are male. If they have had their cock cut off, they are male.

bad faith debating your kind of thing, i guess

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

No I'm not.

No they don't. You've probably seen a lot of them on the street but thought nothing of them because they don't "look trans".

Why can't you just leave them alone? Trans people aren't hurting you or anyone else. If you disagree with their existence, fine, but you have no right to tell them how to live their lives or attack them for their identity.

When you're blindly hating an entire group for who they are despite 90% of them not hurting anyone, you're in bad faith.

~ Tass

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

  1. I'm a girl as well.
  2. My friend is a 5'4 slim girl who has known she was a girl since childhood. She's also into males only.

~ Tass

[–]Keznen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not a lie.

~ Tass