Redditor has a bad time at a gay orgy. The level of entitlement is astounding. This is what happens when you have little to no real world experience and fall for what the internet tells you.

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[–]AsInBeer 38 insightful - 2 fun38 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

So I actually have sympathy for this person. Basically these are people whose brains tell them they are the gender opposite of their body. You have to admit you never "decided" to feel like the man/woman you are- the feeling was just completely there for you, fully formed . So there exist people where the two do not match- the brain and the sex.

The worst part is they're being led to believe that, by "educating' people, they can be desired. That's NEVER going to happen and leading them to believe it can through some Marxist type struggle session on the part of everyone in society is cruel in the extreme.

They can be accepted, but not desired. To be desired, they have to find somone to whom they are desirable. Most gay men don't want a female body. Neither do they want a female body which has been operated on to look like a male. They want another man and his natural body. Same goes for all directions in all forms of reversal- straight men straight women lesbian women etc.

To the person who wrote this- Look, if people are so flexible as you require them to be about what they're attracted to, why don't YOU change YOURSELF to be attracted to men as a straight woman? What? That's not your authentic self ? That's not your authentic desire? That's not who you feel youself to be? Well, welcome to the club.

I acknowledge this can be real, not something they did to themselves out of some weird desire (in most cases at least) to be different . It's easy to imagine that the brain gets printed one way for one reason or another and the body is another way. OK. I don't hate them but there's no way in HELL I'm going to date them just like there's no way in HELL I'm going to fall in love with my car's exhaust pipe. It's not the thing I am looking for and that has NOTHING to do with culture any more than your belief you're a trans was imposed on you by culture.

You can save youself a lot of heartache and not expose yourself to these situations. This is something we all learn. There are whole classes of people- taller, prettier, slimmer, smarter, the list goes on and on, whom we desire but who do not desire us and we just have to suck it up and learn to live with it. Sexual rejection is a basic experience of life EVERYONE experiences, and yes, it makes you want to cry.

All I can say is there's someone out there for everyone because just the way you were born with a mismatched brain and body so also is there someone out there who was born with unusual tastes in partners.

But aside from that, you know what? Thre's more to life than romance (not that you were looking for romance at a gay orgy...). People who die virgins live incredibly fulfilled lives and contribute to society in spectacular ways. The richness and meaning to be found in life is not about who you partner with or even if you partner at all.

Just ask Sir Isaac Newton.

[–]jet199 47 insightful - 2 fun47 insightful - 1 fun48 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Basically these are people whose brains tell them they are the gender opposite of their body.

No, the gender cult tells them that. Their brain knows the truth full well which is why she needs constant external validation. The need for that constant validation then turns her into a narcissistic homophobe.

The vast majority of women now with gender dysphoria have RODG, which means they never questioned their gender during childhood, it came on rapidly during their teenage years. This is mostly due to social contagion, notice she has that zealot friend pushing her to go further all the time. Notice she says she's never felt dysphoria this bad before, these women and girls usually only start feeling major dysphoria after they transition. The supposed cure causes the illness.

[–]AsInBeer 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In some cases it's a sort of cult of gender dysphoria. But people like this have existed for a long, long time, so even if there's a big uptick in this gender tehory bullshit, so it's not JUST that.

I agree with your observations, but for any individual case, you just can't know. I took this person at face value, as we all should do for each other.

We have to all react to the extremism by becoming MORE subtle, nuanced, thoughtful and creative. Don't let the Left pull you down into the shit-pit of absolutism and Manichean thinking because that's where escalation occurs and if WE escalate then WE lose sympathy and the public opinion.

But even beyond that, yes, this person coudl be an exemplar of modern gender theory. But like I said, it's at least possible that they actually are NOT that thing and it's what I posted - someone with a biologically-based condition. It that case Christianity teaches us to have compassion. Since we can't know, we have to err on the side of compassion, always, even non Christians or atheists. It's about making enough space between strongly felt emotions and reactions for civilization.

[–]jet199 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But people like this have existed for a long, long time, so even if there's a big uptick in this gender tehory bullshit, so it's not JUST that.

Any evidence for that?

I personally was a gender non conforming child who told everyone I wanted to be a boy when I grew up and was terrified of becoming a woman with all that entails. I got cured at puberty like 93% of gnc kids. Now looking back I was nothing like a boy, I had no boy's brain, I just didn't fit in with girls so I thought I had to put myself in the other box.

I have actual experience of this thinking and know what it's like from the inside, I don't have to trust what other people are saying.

However if you look at people's actions rather than just their words it's quite clear that trans women still act like men and trans men still act like women even though they claim to have the brain of the opposite sex. Gender clinics even have to have classes to teach people how to act, speak and walk like their preferred gender. That wouldn't be necessary if they were born with a female or male brain, you would do those things instinctively.

[–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Right I hope you didn't misunderstand what I was saying. I was tleling the other poster that even if gender dysphoria is experiecing a big uptick right now because of Universities, it's not JUST that- it's also real for some people....

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nope, the gender dysphoria they suffer is the same but the paths people take to get there are different because it's not inborn, it's due to how personalities interact with society.

[–]AsInBeer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And you acquired this certain knowledge through what means may I ask?