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[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I understand these strategies as I’ve had a lot of personal experience with energy vampires etc. Hell, we’re all ruled by them every day in our government and media.

While these are good strategies for avoiding and distancing that isn’t always possible or even desirable. The article also has a bit of a victim tone itself.

The fact is that energy isn’t a finite resource and one of the most effective ways to deal with a vampire personality is to transform your experience with them into one that becomes energy creating for you.

Simply putting on a happy face and acting positive aren’t enough. Without a baseline of self certainty derived from practices like fear inventory, meditation, or yoga, any advanced vampire will see through your attempts to avoid/deflect.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Simply putting on a happy face and acting positive aren’t enough. Without a baseline of self certainty derived from practices like fear inventory, meditation, or yoga, any advanced vampire will see through your attempts to avoid/deflect.

No doubt. I think putting on a happy face works better with petty shit/people trying to bully you in the work place or some shit. People who are truly feeding off of (or get happy from) your misery or despair aren't going to stop if you fake a smile for a week lol. The article does have some good advice for dealing with toxic people we encounter in our day to day lives though.

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

The article does have some good advice for dealing with toxic people we encounter in our day to day lives though.

No doubt. Just looking to expand/continue a good conversation.

And when you can actively fake smile with sarcasm it does bring an extra “communication” to the table.

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And when you can actively fake smile with sarcasm it does bring an extra “communication” to the table

No doubt!

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

the narcissist will display all these other attributes. narcissism is the core pathology

[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

While many judgmental people look at Narcissism and Borderline Personality as pathologies, the fact is these traits make these people extremely successful in life. The one thing that truly separates them is their lack of empathy toward other people.

Beyond that, many of their behavioral traits can be learned from and effectively employed, especially when dealing with them directly. One of the things that allows the behavior to continue is that people without empathy often think they are the best in the room. Merely deflecting and shutting them out does little to dissuade this viewpoint and they carry on their behavior.

I personally do come from the perspective that anyone can learn and grow and sometimes narcissists and BPDers are merely looking to be “penetrated” back.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with this too. My brother is pretty callous, but in a way I would consider a positive when it comes to the outside world/workforce. He is successful, and will be even more so as we get older, I can already tell.

And his ability to emotionally detach from people at will is truly a skill I wish I had, and I'm not being sarcastic lol.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

As a person who lives w/ someone diagnosed with NPD, I agree to do a degree. They literally change the whole dynamic of my house, playing and manipulating people at their whim. Sometimes they fluctuate between all of these, and causes major problems. Sometimes their the victim and it's everyone else's fault but their own and they constantly deflect - other times they will randomly start talking shit and judging other people who live in the house for no reason, even if they just did right by them. And if things aren't under their control in the house, they aren't aware of all things, or if they see someone happy, they get angry. When people are sad, they are happy which is rare, so it is notable.

I do believe however there are people out there though for example who just have a victim complex, they made bad decisions, can't accept that, so choose to put the blame on someone else every time they see them, for example. That's a form of emotional vampirism too, it's emotionally draining for the recipient, and the person doing it doesn't have to be narcissist necessarily; just someone in denial and refusing to accept responsibility because it's too painful to.

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

sorry to hear you have to deal with a narcissist. sadly they are not uncommon and there is no therapy afaik. are you considering removing them from your life? (not that i wan't to suggest how to run your life or anything.)

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Having been around a lot of narcissists and BPDers in the personal growth industry and seen some of the strongest go head to head at each other and also having many friends in the fields of psychology and psychiatry, I have a strong opinion on this. Psychology and psychiatry currently provide little to no “known” therapy precisely because they are made up of narcissists and Borderline Personality or people who recovering from such after great personal work. In the realms of personal growth, philosophy, and spirituality, there are ways for these individuals to address their own inner workings. I’ve seen amazing transformations in people.

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    [–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    sounds like a good plan. especially the part about leaving the city! in nature the best places when it comes to biodiversity are the so called 'edges'. eg where land and water meet.

    i like growing pot too :-)