Are goldstars becoming more common among the younger generation of lesbians in the West?

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[–]piylot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've heard that too but don't know how if the same is true of women. I get the impression that the men nowadays not having sex are less likely to attribute this to "not feeling pressured" and more likely to attribute this to a lack of opportunities, especially as the average marriage age increases. I don't think that necessarily has the same knock-on effect towards women.

If you've ever browsed redpill/incel forums (solely out of morbid curiousity or otherwise) the theorising goes that as there is less focus on settling down there becomes a bigger window where people are having casual sexual encounters or short term relationships. This is likely also facilitated by increasingly casual attitudes towards sex, though I'm not sure if the rp community touch on this. Women tend to be more choosy than men, and so ~80% of women end up sleeping with the top 20% of men in terms of sexual value, and most often these men are older than women too. So there becomes a discrepancy between sexes where most young women have had casual sex and less men have. I'm not promoting redpill views here, I have my own issues with it, but those sorts of studies you're reading are highly cited in redpill groups, just giving more context on the hypothesis (to save you from needing to go into those forums to do your own research)

[–]Dudukolo[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thanks for the info and explanation!

Don't worry, I browsed redpill/incel forums before. i actually find the comments pretty interesting tbh. I think it reflects what a lot of younger Western men thinks of women.

Do you also agreed with these redpill/incels that young men are having much less sex while for women it remains the same or even increasing?

[–]piylot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think it's a matter of opinion, I don't actually know the stats on whether it's true or not. In my experience as a teen my female friends more often had sex younger than our males friends though

[–]Dudukolo[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I C. Do you think this is a positive (men having much less sex which I assume would make them feel less entitled to women bodies and may positively indirectly impact young lesbians as well as they might feel less heteronormative/"comphet" (I really dislike this term) pressure) or negative thing (creating more incels/redpillers/MGTOWs/MRAs due to higher rates of male virginity and sexlessness)?

Btw can I also ask you something in PM?

[–]piylot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think not having the opportunity to have sex makes misogynistic men feel less entitled to women's bodies. Incels are the prime example of this. They even seem to in most cases attribute their resentment towards women to their lack of sex. I don't think that's fair or true but I don't think it solves anything either.

And if the female standard is still to start having sex in mid-late teens (unconfirmed whether rates of young women or teenage girls having sex is actually in decline) then I don't think we could conclude that anything has changed in terms of the social expectations on women.

You can send me a pm