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[–]Canardyyy 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I don’t bother explaining it to people cause it doesn’t affect them and I’ll look crazy and transphobic/homophobic. And in my career, I unfortunately have to be neutral about it.

Having this platform is a way for me to be able to express it, and of course talking to my girlfriend, whom stand by dropping the T as well.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 6 fun -  (10 children)

Pretty much everyone has to be neutral these days. I got into it as work with someone who directly asked me if I would date trans women; I said no and they were so mad. I also said “if you don’t want an honest answer don’t ask a question like that.” This person (straight man) seemed to think it would be fine for lesbians to date someone with a neovagina and I just felt bad for him. It’s not even close to the same thing, the only people who think that are dudes. He even said some of them were more beautiful than “real” women. Like okay man.

[–]Ricky_Ticky 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

To be honest I still consider myself neutral. Transwomen have always existed and will always exist. I believe the majority of them are nice people, and besides they are mostly straight and looking for men, so they could care less about lesbians.

The ones that are invading our spaces are het men who have finally found a legal way to materialize their sick porn fantasies.

What I don't understand is why don't women just say "no" to girldicks and other weird stuff and ignore it? Why do lesbians give attention to these douchebags? Had lesbians not reacted to them, they would leave our spaces and the problem would be solved by itself.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Most of them are looking for lesbians now. At least around here. There are only 2 that I know that are into men and the rest are “lesbians.” Trans people will always exist, for sure. What I want to see is way more gatekeeping to prevent creepy dudes who are not trans from invading female spaces. Trans people pretending that no one claims to be trans and then does creepy shit is such nonsense. There are many instances of this. And way more gatekeeping for kids and teens to prevent mistakes being made. Etc

[–]mangosplums 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. This is what I agree with. Most of the people who are claiming to be trans these days aren’t. But saying that will get you called a horrible bigot, how dare you gate-keep, how dare you tell someone else who they are, only they know that. It’s bull shit. I have no problem with trans people, I have a problem with the self ID policy that that community insists on. There needs to be gate-keeping. Predatory men posing as trans people are not a myth.

[–]Ricky_Ticky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yep, I am in Europe and I can sense that it has gotten a lot worse in the US

[–]florasis 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The point is that traditionally transwomenwere homosexual males who were super effeminate. The hetero dude of today are new thing supported by gender ideology

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    [–]Ricky_Ticky 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I meant if a trans woman is attracted to men, she must be a straight trans woman. I hear a lot from gay guys how ftms approach them in clubs or on dating apps. Gay guys just say no and walk away.

    But it is completely different within the lesbian community. Some of us dare to say the truth and we do not buy into this inclusiveness bs (that's why we are here). But many other women who call themselves lesbians are gladly bowing to all this crap. Why is it like that?

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      [–]Ricky_Ticky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      In that respect transwomen who are into men are gay? I got confused :)

      [–]mangosplums 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I don’t agree that they’d go away if lesbians didn’t give them attention, but I agree with the rest. I don’t have a problem with most trans people and I think it’s a real thing. It’s that now predatory men are allowed to pass as trans women and get away with preying on us and if you say something about it you’re called a bigot. That’s what I have a problem with.