I really agree with a lot of what both you and @canbot said. I think that you might both benefit from moving away from the whole socialism-vs-capitalism dichotomy now, because it is not a useful model anymore. Obviously the capitalists are also socialists trying to implement a Chinese model of capitalist-socialist totalitarianism with no freedom and huge wealth disparity.

I think you need to acknowlege that there are “poor” people who are behaving badly, harmfully, unproductively and are not having their wealth stolen. They are having wealth distributed to them from useful workers.

Canbot doesn’t seem to realize that a free market society is only functional if everyone is playing by the same rules in the market and that everyone in the market must have a stake in the overall welfare of the society based on a common set of values. A handful of bad actors cannot be allowed to fuck over the rest of the society, especially productive workers. Because then there is no trust. No trust= no prosperity.

Which is what we got here.