"Capitalism Rewards Efficiency"

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[–]Intuit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Sure, capitalism is all the things that naturally flow from voluntary exchange. What would you want instead of voluntary exchange? There's not much you can change without enabling the bad elements to be even worse. Physical things will continue to exist, and it's a question of how it's decided what they are used for. Do you want that based on merit and contribution of value, or by committee, or by who can be the most unruly and threatening to others?

I would say that the indoctrination worked on you to some degree.

If you can specifically point out something that would help me, do so. If you're going to cast vague doubts on my ability to offer arguments, then you've already checked out of the discussion.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I don't take part in arguments.

[–]Intuit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If you don't want to make arguments for your positions, you're on the wrong site.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Arguing implies that neither side will change their position.

[–]Intuit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Argument refers to claims backed up by reason. It's the way you offer someone your point of view and reasons for them to consider it over their current point of view. It shows how one starts with shared assumptions and through reasoning arrives at the conclusion.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Is that not just an assertion, followed up by conversation?

[–]Intuit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Of course, the spirit is to offer a different conclusion and help the other person see how they can reach it, or have them offer a rebuttal to show a flaw in how you reached it. If two people desire to mutually shed light on the world, this can be productive.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So, a conversation, not an argument.

[–]Intuit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Argumentation (n) - the action or process of reasoning systematically in support of an idea, action, or theory. Making arguments, not having an argument.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So you can make an argument in a conversation? So, a conversation?