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[–]horatioherbert 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

This is how technology was introduced, explained and sold to the working class: think of all the free time you'll have with automation doing the work.

[–]wecandobetter 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

..and that's exactly the way it turned out. I'm able to work a mere 40 hrs a week (as opposed to the ~119 hr/wk required for a self-sufficient agrarian existence), and be productive enough to earn a comfortable living. Then I go home, exercise, watch mindless television, pursue hobbies etc. The self-maintenance chores I'm required to do are also highly automated and require minimal time and effort. I vacuumed my whole house, did the dishes and laundry, mowed the whole yard, and paid my bills yesterday in <3 hrs. Then I went back to doing thefuckIwant. How has automation not delivered on its promise?

[–]horatioherbert 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No working class in self sufficient agrarian existence. My point is contemporary working class hasn’t fared well in jobs with advances in technology and you chime in with 10,000 year old agricultural living

[–]wecandobetter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

....except that agricultural societies only began to emerge 10000 years ago. I'd even argue the process of keeping plants and animals to eat instead of chasing them down is a form of automation.

[–]horatioherbert 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Indeed the knowledge to construct a pen for livestock and using dogs/falcons to hunt is technology, so undoubtedly the overall effect of technology has been positive on humanity(machines of war aside). The post specifically referred to technology putting unskilled people out of work to which I agree. One function of the state is labor