Indoctrination / DoublethinkGuy gets a bit upset about his newly gay relationship, red flags everywhere for Reddit gay transmen brigade

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[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There are all kinds of angles here, but the one I'm interested in is the expectation of unconditional love.

Unconditional love does not exist between adults. It may exist between parent and child but that's it. For adults, there are always conditions.

To expect otherwise is to not be in touch with reality, and thus ultimately to suffer deeply.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These people are conditioned to be narcissists. Anytime anyone close to them doesn't do, say, or think whatever the T wants, they're told the other person is toxic and a transphobe. They have no idea how to have a healthy relationship.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It would be obscenely unhealthy for love to not include conditions. That's how toxic relationships are possible: when one partner disregards the flaws and harmful actions of the other and says "well, all that matters is I love them," even if they are actively being harmed physically, emotionally, or financially by the relationship. If I got into a relationship and my boyfriend ended up intentionally severely hurting my family, I'd break up with him. Being a non-psychopath is one condition for someone to gain and keep my love. That's not unhealthy or me being too choosy.

Unconditional love should not exist between adults, it's unhealthy and dangerous to pretend it's a good idea.

[–]HelloMomo 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Around the start of covid, my relationship with my bestfriend since childhood ended. I do think it was unconditional on my end (although I guess not her end). But through that, I realized that unconditional love really has virtually nothing to person in question. If nothing they could do would change anything, it becomes very divorced from them. And then doesn't really have much to do with them anymore; its not about them at that point. And I think that makes it less meaningful.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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