ColonizationShe has rights! And sexy times with real gay men is one of them.

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[–]julesburm1891 42 insightful - 13 fun42 insightful - 12 fun43 insightful - 13 fun -  (3 children)

Some of my favorite comments:

i hate the “just be t4t” sentiment as if that’s even an ‘available’ option for most trans mlm

Are you saying you aren’t open and available to dating the sex to which you aren’t attracted?

Its like telling someone who WANTS relationships outside of t4t to just give up because they will never be good enough for a cis person

A. Why do you WANT a relationship outside of t4t if transmen are men? Are they not good enough for you? Why? B. You are literally complaining because people are recommending you date “cis” men who are into females.

Also from what I’ve seen a lot of gay trans guys prefer cis guys anyway

Again, if transmen are men, why do you prefer biological men? Why are you allowed to prefer biological men and biological men are not?

It’s like telling someone to only date their own race.

15 February 2022. Let it be known on this date that I am setting aside a dollar for LGB Alliance every time I hear or see someone compare homosexuality (or heterosexuality) to racism. On New Year’s Eve, I’ll make a donation with the final total.

[–]fuck_reddit 17 insightful - 17 fun17 insightful - 16 fun18 insightful - 17 fun -  (0 children)

I’ll make a donation with the final total.

I’m very sorry to hear of your looming bankruptcy…

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

In 2023 let us know what the final total is, I'm sure LGB Alliance will appreciate several hundred dollars.

[–]julesburm1891 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Deal

[–]MilkTea 29 insightful - 9 fun29 insightful - 8 fun30 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

Also from what I've seen a lot of gay trans guys prefer cis guys anyways, so like... being exclusively t4t is not going to necessarily match me with people who are actually ok with me being trans, it'll just limit my dating pool.

... You don't say!

[–]DrMantisToboggan 28 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

But those bigoted gay cis men don't get the option to prefer only cis gay men.

[–][deleted] 31 insightful - 3 fun31 insightful - 2 fun32 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, girl, we know, you have a fetish for gay men and only want to date gay men. Bi men and other women pretending to be gay men don't fulfill your fetish. Just admit you're a creepy pervert and stop playing the victim.

[–]CaptainMooseEx-Bathhouse Employee 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They're not suggesting you date bi/pan men because those guys date women, they're suggesting that because bi guys tend to be more secure in their sexuality than gay men, on average.

Bullshit.

Older culture is important and cool but we can keep parts of that and ditch things like transphobia, racism, and letting predatory older guys take advantage of younger guys as a "learning curve" (this one comes particularly with my local gay bath house in mind)

Interesting how you bring up predatory behaviour and yet are a woman who goes into a men's bathhouse. Like every single woman who tried to come down the stairs, get it through your fucking head that a good portion of the men that go there are exclusively same-sex attracted- we cannot consent to you. Even the bi men there are looking for dick. Also, at least in the bathhouse I worked at, we would encourage new guys to get rooms so they could have a place to shut out guys who wouldn't take no for an answer. Also, I banned the shit out of guys who had complaints lodged against them.

Oh, and a year ago Miss Woman up in the quote was self IDing as a lesbian.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 14 insightful - 8 fun14 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 8 fun -  (3 children)

Trans gay men deserve better than self-segregation. And honestly, cis gay men deserve better than stewing in their own ignorance and unexamined trauma responses while their subculture is impoverished through homogeneity.

yer gayness is TrAuMa

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's so hilarious that they think being gay and not being attracted to women's bodies is a trauma response. Strangely enough, that's exactly what your classic "fag hag" always thought: if he just has the right vagina thrust upon him by the right woman (me) he'll change his sexuality.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess they stole it from the transbians, not realizing that gay men don't get the same sexual harassment that lesbians get. It seemed like a weird statement to me in this context.

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Funny, the only trauma I or any other gay man have is society always managing to reinvent the conversion therapy wheel in their attempts to "heterofy" or "fix" us.

[–]cutenoobies 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

A lot of people are incredibly limited in their viewpoint and understanding of gender.

Why do they make gender sound something so important and groundbreaking?

[–]BootsAndBeards 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because its all they really have going in life.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why do they make gender sound something so important and groundbreaking?

Exactly! Was just thinking that this is the crux of the problem: these people NEED gender to be important and groundbreaking... because they've put all their eggs in that basket; it's the basis for their entire identity, after all. And yet... not only is this just a set of stereotypes, thus the furthest thing from "groundbreaking", it could hardly be more irrelevant. Really-- when does this crap ever matter? Why should anyone know, or care, about how you see your fantasy-self? It's of no significance whatsoever. Not a very wise choice as something to build your whole life around! But these ninnies have gone and done precisely that. And on some level... I think they know it. Which is why they're so RABID about it. Because if they weren't, the natural reaction of pretty much everyone would (quite properly) be: "yeah, so what?"

[–]Rosefield 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If trans men are men it should be no problem for her to date other trans men. But she knows it's a lie. She wants real gay men because that's the only kind of man she fetishizes.

It's always hilarious when straight trans people are screeching that homosexuals don't want to date them.

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tbh, the trans label doesn't even apply anymore. None of these "trans" women or men are even transgender, they're just pretending to be so that they can bully gay men & lesbians into having sex with them.

[–]HelloMomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that if real gay men, could somehow date straight men—if somehow straight men would be interested in them—a lot of them would go for it.

(If any gay men have feedback on this theory, I'd like to hear it.)