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[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I would love it if you made far fewer assumptions about people here, listened more, and made fewer authoritative-sounding declarations for which you don't possess the requisite backstory or history.

Looking for a bone to pick because the other person hasn't spelled out every last detail of their perspective (every freaking time; do you have any idea how often these same topics come up?) is super tiresome and I'm not going to indulge this one with further time-wasting clarifications which no one else here seems to need so they will simply be decent and give the benefit of the doubt. I won't play.

The know-it-all attitude isn't helpful here. Learn who people are here before you start willy-nilly disparaging them and projecting assumed opinions onto them. Thanks.

Furthermore, when were you planning to even tell us in some easily-accessible way what your sex and orientation are? That isn't required but it is definitely a thing out of courtesy around here to help us understand one another better. Everyone interacting with you who discloses is at a disadvantage because you generally don't disclose.

[–]7874[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The double-standard is obvious to everyone with eyes. Feel free to point out exactly where I assumed something about you and what I'm projecting. I'll wait.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'll wait.

That’s nice, because as I’ve demonstrated I am already done waiting for you to notice your own attitude here. It’s not one instance, it’s a pattern that came with you to this sub and persists. So no, we’re not going to isolate it down to one instance in order to evade looking at the pattern.

Your insight about how you come across here is insufficient. Like I said, it's tiresome, and I am not bothering going around in circles with you further. You clearly don't get, or don’t care, how you come across. I refer you to your own recent struggle with a friend you tried at the last second to talk out of surgery (rather vehemently, according to your account—“I think I got too emotional trying to talk her out of it and she's ignoring me now”—which was both selfish and foolhardy; I tried to be supportive regardless, but am out of patience with your lack of insight about your own behavior now): Look at yourself, not at others. Charging in with your convictions and assumptions and casting them about everywhere in ways that insult the intelligence of people who have been here way longer than you have is never going to work. And that's what you tend to do here. When you respond to a specific person as if they have beliefs that they don't have, and start a debate about that as if that's a credible approach to dialogue, you just look like you're addicted to aggressively being right at people, and living in your own head rather than participating in conversations with others. Enough already. "I'll wait" doesn't lend validity to your ignorance, btw, it just makes you look further insistent on protecting ignorant positions you have decided to hold. Do you seriously think you are on some sort of mission to educate people here? Do you really think we don’t already have plenty of clues? Because that’s how you act sometimes.

I've censored this criticism with you many times already and am simply not doing it anymore. You come across as ignorant and arrogant. It is a drag to attempt to converse with you rather often as a result because of your need to have things explained to you that others are decent enough to assume might be the case without the hand-holding.

You are new here. Respect that instead of acting like you know everything necessary to have a conversation with anyone you meet here. You don't. And I am definitely not waiting, I'm done. So go ahead and hold your breath for your chance to be "right" all you want. When you project crap onto other people here, you aren’t, and that’s not subject to debate.

Also, you still have not disclosed any basic demographic info. We still don’t have any idea who you are beyond a number as a username, and your general attitude. It’s obvious you care about things and want to engage. Learn how to do that with more grace and you’ll be fine, but in the meantime, trying to talk with you about issues too often involves you spewing insulting assumptions and declarations instead of respecting those you are conversing with might also know a thing or two even if they haven’t put up a sign listing all of those things every time they talk with you. Have a nice day, kiddo. I was as insistent and oblivious as you, once upon a time, and it didn’t go well for me either. Take a breath and slow your roll.

[–]soundsituationI myself was once a gay 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You are new here.

Oh I doubt that ;)

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can't say that hasn't crossed my mind. Insistent, obtuse vehemence is usually more of a troll thing. So it's best to not do that here unless one wants to eventually be asked, "Have we met before?"