DiscussionIs the word "homosexual" a slur, like GLAAD and TQs say? Should it not be used because "it's offensive" or "it's clinical"?

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[–]Clitorisk 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

I agree with GLAAD: homosexual is a very clinical term that reduces complex identities to sexual interactions with genitals. Being Gay/lesbian is more than genital interactions.

[–]Fastandthecurious[S] 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Why is your name "clitoris" then? I'm sure if to you, "homosexual is bad because being gay is more than genital interaction", being a "woman" is more than a genital like clitoris. If "homosexual" is "clinical", then why wouldn't "clitoris" be? If "homosexual" shouldn't be used, then "clitoris" shouldn't be either because it's "reducing complex people to their genitals". "whY aRe YoU rEdUcInG wOmEn tO GenItAls" :/

[–]Clitorisk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You're right, being a woman is more than just having a clitoris. That's why we call women "women", and not "clitorises".

Likewise being a lesbian is more than just rubbing genitals together. I'm not a homosexual, I'm a lesbian who engages in things like homosexual sex.

[–]Fastandthecurious[S] 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not really.

1) A woman is "an adult human female"

2) Female is "an organism with female genitals and/or eggs"

Conclusion: Woman is "an organism with female genitals and/or eggs".

"Woman" isn't something separate from the genitals. It doesn't include personality, what color or food you like, etc, etc.

I know you like playing with words because you think there's more to "woman" than there is, but there isn't. I'm saying this as a woman.

If you have an issue with "reducing people to things like genitals", which is what TQs say, then you should have an issue with the word "woman". You'd have to say "I'm not a woman, because there's more to me than my genitals. I'm a person, not a woman, just like I'm not a homosexual".

I noticed you used "homosexual" in "homosexual sex".

GLAAD says you shouldn't do that because it's "offensive": https://www.glaad.org/reference/offensive

Offensive: "homosexual relations/relationship," "homosexual couple," "homosexual sex," etc.

Preferred: "relationship," "couple" (or, if necessary, "gay couple"), "sex," etc.

Identifying a same-sex couple as "a homosexual couple," characterizing their relationship as "a homosexual relationship," or identifying their intimacy as "homosexual sex" is extremely offensive and should be avoided. These constructions are frequently used by anti-gay extremists to denigrate gay people, couples and relationships.

As a rule, try to avoid labeling an activity, emotion or relationship gay, lesbian, or bisexual unless you would call the same activity, emotion or relationship "straight" if engaged in by someone of another orientation. In most cases, your readers, viewers or listeners will be able to discern people's sexes and/or orientations through the names of the parties involved, your depictions of their relationships, and your use of pronouns.

If you agree with GLAAD in "homosexual being offensive and clinical", then you should agree with the other claims as well instead of cherry picking (:

[–]Clitorisk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm allowed to cherry-pick because I'm capable of independent thought. I don't want to be called homosexual, as a human. People who respect me as a person will understand that. People who don't are irrelevant.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm allowed to cherry-pick because I'm capable of independent thought. I don't want to be called homosexual, as a human. People who respect me as a person will understand that. People who don't are irrelevant.

Then why do you want to be called a human? Isn't THAT reductive? Simply being a generic member of this primate species? Because that's all that "human" means.

[–]Fastandthecurious[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Only someone incapable of thinking logically cherry picks. And you cherry pick. That doesn't look good ...

You don't want to be called "homosexual" because you think "being gay is more than genital interaction", but then want to be called a "lesbian" or a "woman" eventhough the word "woman" only has to do with genitals, and the word "lesbian" which is a "gay woman" only has to do with genitals.

You also want to be called a "human" eventhough being a human has to do with a bunch of genes. Why care about "being reduced to genitals", when you don't mind being called a "human" and being reduced to a bunch of genes?

Even if you were to call yourself a "person", you'd reduce yourself to nothing but your "consciousness".

Everything from "human" to "person" is "reductive uwu".

I'm simply pointing out whatever you say makes absolutely no sense. Zero. Noone is obliged to take your "issue with the word homosexual" seriously, when the hypocrisy is apparent in your thinking.

People who respect me as a person will understand that. People who don't are irrelevant.

Respect is earned. You don't consider why someone would not respect you for cherry picking and acting like the word "homosexual" is something "wrong" that "shouldn't be used". You haven't done anything to earn that respect. And I wouldn't blame anyone that doesn't respect you with that homophobic attitude.

[–]hufflepuff-poet 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Isn't lesbian just the word for a homosexual female? So wouldn't lesbians always be homosexuals? I'm a lesbian so any sex I have will be with another woman and by default will be homosexual sex.