Colonization"Lesbian bottom" happy for first time with transbian

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[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Does anyone feel it's bad for their mental health to keep interacting with these people? Like consenting adults can do what they want but this is wacky and they shouldn't be telling lesbians how to have sex.

[–]insta 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

One of the largest injustices in these scenarios is that these people are simply being let loose and people are lying to buy into their delusions. These people need help but instead people are patting themselves on the back for telling the trans person the voices inside their head are real and totally valid.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think it's the dishonesty that gets me. I hate having to pretend that this is legitimately what's going on. I would honestly rather they admit to being agp, and then we can all have a conversation about appropriate boundaries rather than having to deal with all the lies and the vindictive behaviour when the get called out. Oh an the gaslighting, and bullshitting that goes on with pretending to be something they're not.

[–]insta 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think unquestionably the worst thing about the whole thing is all the unsuspecting young gay, lesbian, and bisexual children who are going to get swept up into thinking "Oh, I'm not just an effeminate gay man, I'm a woman" and who's lives are going to be forever ruined by propaganda from (to be overly generous) well-intentioned idiots if not ideological dogmatists.

There was definitely a time during puberty where you could've convinced me I wasn't just gay, but actually trans. I remember my first crush on a straight guy and if you hit someone right at that time with "He would be interested in you if you were a girl" then who knows what would've happened. Kids are fucking dumb, that's at the core of my objection to this.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Absolutely. I feel awful for these kids. In part, because they're too young to see that a lot of the vague terms and concepts are vague because people want to cover up all kinds of messes*; but also because I think this will blow over in about 10 years and they'll be stuck with the consequences.

  • And this is really where I hate the deceit. I'll use my friend's brother as an example. He's non-binary, transitioning to have a female body because "he feels like he has both a male and female brain, but would feel more comfortable with a female body". What's some kid meant to make of that? They don't know what autogynephilia is. This man isn't going to publicly tell anyone that his dysphoria developed during puberty, or that female "panties" featured prominently in his early transition. He'll cover up the fact that he was a gender conforming child (and adult, frankly) with no history of gender non-conforming behaviour. These kids are probably going to think that if you're a man who's effeminate, or sensitive; or if you're a woman whose a bit butch, or doesn't fit in with the girl cliques at school— then maybe that's what those adults mean when they're talking about having a male and female brain? And maybe some of those kids will then transition. That's what I hate about the lies. We know what's really going on but these kids don't. And now they're being duped into bad decisions they can't undo.

[–]insta 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These kids are probably going to think that if you're a man who's effeminate, or sensitive; or if you're a woman whose a bit butch, or doesn't fit in with the girl cliques at school

Which is the irony of ironies of the whole TRA cult. They have like the most rigid views of gender roles it's fucking absurd. Obviously, #NotAll, but so so so many MtFs just hold up this Barbie stereotype of femininity. They put on lipstick, a short skirt, or a sundress and suddenly they think they're a woman. TRAs and traditional conservatives agree almost completely on gender roles but they only disagree that transition is possible, it's fucking laughable. God forbid you're a gay man who might enjoy wearing panties or something like your example, no it means you're a girl. Who knows you might just enjoy wearing women's clothing or might enjoy drag, but no, to these people that means you should take sterilizing hormones and forever change your body.