Is sexual attraction only based on genitals, or is there more to sexual attraction (e.g. attraction to secondary sexual characteristics, "femininity", "masculinity", etc)?

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[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

FYI-- this person seems to be a troll. Please report and move on.

u/Not_a_celebrity, you made a post similar to this one about a week ago. I gave you a detailed response to it and you did not reply, so I will re-post it here.

https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/7bou/how_does_the_neopenis_differ_from_a_penis_and/rngy

This is not a debate sub. I would suggest you post this on s/GCdebatesQT instead, and please take a look at the rules on our sidebar.

Why would a trans man with this same neopenis not be a man and their neopenis not be considered a penis?

Because:

  • There are only two types of gametes involved in human reproduction-- sperm and ova. (If you have discovered a third type of gamete, please contact the press and collect your Nobel prize.)

  • There are, correspondingly, two sexes found in humans-- one that has a reproductive system corresponding to one type of gamete (sperm), and another that has a different reproductive system corresponding to the other type of gamete (ova).

  • The two sexes are called "male" (for humans with a reproductive system corresponding to sperm) and "female" (for humans with a reproductive system corresponding to ova).

  • Transmen are female, by definition-- they are female people who "identify as a man" or otherwise as not having the sex (male/female) that they have had from birth.

  • Attaching an external appendage to one's body, i.e. a "neopenis", does not change one's reproductive capacities. (edit: i.e. whether one has a reproductive system corresponding to one type of gamete, sperm, or the other, ova.)

Sometimes people ask, "Why are these discussions about man/woman so focused on reproductive capacities?!" and the grand answer is that it's because... biological sex is defined on the basis of reproduction (i.e. gametes).

Hope that helps. Again, this is not a debate sub and you might want to try posting elsewhere.

[–]Not_a_celebrity 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You think I don't post on GCdebatesQT? That's the only other place I can post questions. But very few people ever go there, and it's for GCs only. I want to ask in a sub for gay people, because these questions are related to gay people. You got a sub for gay people that criticize the TQs and answer questions, besides here? No? But yes please call me a troll 🙄

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But very few people ever go there, and it's for GCs only.

No it's not, it's for GC and QT. And actually some people who post here, also post there-- there are quite a few LGB on that sub as well. So it would definitely be a good place to ask LGB trans-critical people's opinions.

You got a sub for gay people that criticize the TQs and answer questions, besides here? No?

No we don't, do you know why? Because the entire infrastructure of LGB, GC and trans-questioning subs got banned from reddit, and we are still rebuilding. Our priority is taking care of LGB people and addressing our needs. Again, it says that on the sidebar. A s/askLGB sounds like a great idea, but until then, your best bet is probably r/askgaybros-- have you tried there? A lot of them, though not all, are trans-critical.

But yes please call me a troll

I will, thanks, until your actions suggest otherwise. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but you still have not responded to either of my comments' substance on the topic that you introduced. Does that mean you are convinced by the points I made?

[–]Not_a_celebrity 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Posted this on gcdebatesqt, now leave me the f alone, thanks 🖕

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao. You asked people's opinions, I gave you mine, you refused to answer so I wondered if you might be asking in bad faith, and now you are telling me to leave you the f alone.

Have a nice day.