When it comes up I ask them to show me evidence about the claims of violence and how TWAW/TMAM, or whatever we are discussing. If they try to change the subject I call them out on it. Then I show them how the tras lie about their claims, show them the death and rape threats. I show them how they guilt trip and pressure people about sexuality and the blatant homophobia, show them talking over women. I used to show them the old gcdebatesqt subreddit a lot and it that’s what really did it. Seeing it coming from the trans people themselves in an environment where their views were being directly discussed and challenged and the whole point was to discuss things tras never want to discuss- that sub is what made me fully gc myself.

I’ve only had to talk about this stuff with a few of my friends, to be fair. But all of them ended up agreeing with me. Honestly the stuff about sex and the sub do most of my work for me. I never even had to give any personal opinions, I let the tras speak for themselves, my friends acknowledge that what they are saying is fucked up, then I ask them how they support a group that bullies and threatens others for simply disagreeing with them. It doesn’t just miraculously change their minds right away, but it seems to make it impossible to not see it and they eventually admit to me that they see things differently.

Tldr- I don’t have to tell them peak stories. I show them the cracks in logic and the hypocrisy and contradictions surrounding the movement as a whole