What do you think about TQ+?

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    [–]oyasuminasai50 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    This most aligns with my own views. I do believe people with gender dysphoria should be able to live their lives as the opposite sex, and that the polite thing to do is to treat them as their desired sex.

    The policing of people's language is strike one for me.

    This idea that we can't even acknowledge that trans men have female bodies or that trans women have male bodies.

    How the dialogue begins and ends at "Trans women are women," as if there's not an ounce of nuance to that statement.

    How even broaching the topic of nuance in this case is strictly prohibited in left-leaning circles.

    How the onus is on all of us to speak in a way so as to contemplate 0.5% of the population at all times.

    How there is no room to discuss the degree to which the rise in trans identification could be comorbid with mental disorders.

    I could go on.

    [–]WinstonSmithTired of being nice 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    the polite thing to do is to treat them as their desired sex

    I disagree. We don't pretend that a schizophrenic person is really the second coming of Jesus Christ, why should we pretend that a man is really a woman? You make so much sense when you talk about how the trans police our language, but how is treating them like the opposite sex any different? Because if there are "cis" women and "trans" women, what is a woman?

    The whole "using preferred pronouns is respectful and costs nothing uwu!" thing is exactly how we got into this mess in the first place - give them an inch and they'll take a mile. It's not polite to lie to someone to make them feel better or validated.

    [–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree with you on that, the pronouns mess started this whole thing. Then they'll want more and more out of us. As HighQueenofFemmes mentioned, the trans movement is basically giving permission to invade female-specific spaces and erase women.

    I am a former female trans person and while, yes it was nice being called "he/him" at the time, it ultimately wouldn't fix the real issue --- gender dysphoria.

    I knew that no amount of hormones/surgery would change the fact I wasn't born male. And it was scary to think about going through with it, because what about the side-effects?

    Also, there are statics that transgender people who have surgery have a higher rate of suicide.

    What we should do, is give trans individuals therapy and help them sort through their issues, not tell them to change and basically lie to them saying they can "changed genders" like it's magic.

    That'd be like telling a white person for example, "You feel like you're black? Okay, well, you are. Just get surgery to change your whole body and skin colour and start calling yourself that"

    But if you call them racist---

    "It's not racist if I feel that way!! I can say the n-word all I want because I transitioned to 'African American'". ((Similar to how these MEN think it's okay to go around saying "bitches" all the time because now they're a "woman" so "What's up bitches?"))

    It also pisses me off when trans males say "Well, black people are considered woman, so so are we!"

    Edit:word