ColonizationAnyone else notice how they're trying to change the meaning of GNC?

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[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Anyone else notice how they're trying to change the meaning of GNC?

Yes. Gender non-conforming is an ADJECTIVE (ex. Masculine woman, feminine man and non-binary typically used as a noun/POLITICAL identity.

I am a GNC woman. Because I am 'masculine', that doesn't mean I change my pronouns/sex to make a (political) statement. My whole being ISN'T a political statement, I just am...am me. We're just regular people who happen to not follow the typical gender roles/expectation.

Nonbinary people are trying to make a political statement by being "no sex" and going by they/them pronouns. They ARE for gender roles funnily enough. They think because they like "masculine" things like sports and trucks BUT ALSO "feminine" things like makeup and fashion, that they don't fall in EITHER category. Either that or they don't have strong stereotypical masculine nor feminine interests that they basically claim to be "neither".

The best way I can put it is gender nonconforming people defy gender roles while trans/non-binary people conform to gender roles---which makes us gender non conforming...

u/Kai_Decadence is a GNC man too and has very insightful responses and topics. He may be able to shine light from his perspective.

[–]Kai_Decadence 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The depressing thing about "non-binary" is that it could've been a neat new phrase to refer to Gender Nonconforming, especially for Gender nonconforming men since unlike women who had the term "tomboy" to describe a masculine woman, there was never a positive word that describes the reverse aka feminine man. "Sissy", "Faggot", "Fruit", "Gaylord"... These terms were always meant to be derogatory towards men who weren't masculine. And then when we got the word "Femboy", it quickly got corrupted by the kink/fetish crowd and now when you search up "Femboy", you're bombordd with sexual crap so. So there just wasn't a non-demeaning word that could be used to describe a feminine boy and so when I first heard of "non-binary" and I saw a man referring to himself as that while having a feminine appearance that didn't look kinky or sexualized, I was all for it until I dug deeper and saw that these people were trying to use that to tie into sex/gender and I just shook my head in disappointment lol.

[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The depressing thing about "non-binary" is that it could've been a neat new phrase to refer to Gender Nonconforming, especially for Gender nonconforming men

Yeah, I noticed that too---about how there's not a positive/neutral term to call non gender conforming men apart from "GNC" or "feminine men"

Apart from those terms there's "metrosexual" but...if I understood correctly, that's used for straight feminine men.

I'm just annoyed that as a GNC person, in this day and age, we're still expected to "change" ourselves to conform...(ex. Being told we're secretly trans or "gender fluid"???)

[–]Kai_Decadence 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep exactly and about Metrosexual, yeah it was mostly used to describe a straight man who didn't mind being stylish and doing more self-grooming care. But I don't think "metrosexual" would describe a GNC man who is the equivalent of the reverse butch woman.

I'm just annoyed that as a GNC person, in this day and age, we're still expected to "change" ourselves to conform...(ex. Being told we're secretly trans or "gender fluid"???)

Eugh I know. It's freaking depressing that people say that crap to us about how we're secretly trans or in denial of being trans when we can see why Trans is a lie and is society's way of ridding society of gender nonconforming people since we disrupt the social construct.

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Just wanted to add I found this quote on twitter about non-binary:

Being non-binary is an ideological trap. You reject the strict rigidity of gender binarism—I’m with you there. But you define yourself as a negation. Your identity, then, existentially depends on this binary.

You are not dismantling it, you are immortalising it.

Someone tries to throw in an atheist analogy so the commenter replies:

Being non binary is the sum total of these people’s identity. They define themselves by not subscribing to the binary—but they have to always think about what the binary is to successively avoid it. And others need to think of it too in order to make sense of what being NB is.

Here is the source: https://mobile.twitter.com/SaffronLula/status/1317886827248947200