The support for LGBT is dropping for the first time in ages thanks to TRA's and nonbinaries.

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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It's not JUST trans people. Support is also dropping because of gay men wearing fetish gear to Pride, and the LGB(T+) as a whole demanding special privileges and acting like their sexuality is everyone's business.

I'm one of the "young people who's support is dropping" and I'm from a country that views it negatively. Honestly if you want support to go up, then you need RADICAL CHANGE. (Radical as in different/severe/harsh. Not radical feminism. God no.) The LGB(T) is not doing anything but making homosexuals look bad and making homosexuals like me go "fuck those people and fuck this shit, I want out". Stuff like this article, Pride etc are a big part of why I hate my sexuality. And people like me are going to keep going down that road unless the LGB(T) can collectively get it's shit together, stop acting like narcissistic adult children, and start treating homosexuality as a mundane thing and not a perverted attention grab.

But that will never happen.

Also lmao @ you guys blaming drag queen bullshit on the trans people. You know drag is a gay male thing right? I hate transgender stuff as much as anyone else, maybe even more so because I'm intersex and trans people are doing so much harm to people like me. But this sub is getting ridiculous, not everything you don't like is the "trans and queer" fault, it's time the LGB starts owning up to it's own messes instead of pointing fingers at someone else and saying the trans community brainwashed gay men to invent drag and be inappropriate or something.

[–]joogabahGay shows the way 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm surprised to read you dislike radical feminism (2nd wave feminism). Like Sheila Jeffreys and David Fernbach? I wouldn't be able to understand why sexual orientation is policed without their contributions.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

"Women are inherently always oppressed victims, especially in first world privileged communities unless they're EVIL BISEXUAL OR STRAIGHT BITCHES WHO ARE COLLABORATING WITH MEN WHO WANT TO OPPRESS ME"

"All men bad even from birth and despite different cultural and individual upbringings"

"To be pro-feminist you need to be vegan because eating chicken eggs is akin to rape"

"If men/trans are trying to force me to be straight that's actually bisexual women's fault"

"Women who aren't radical feminists are evil misogynist harpies"

"Intersex people are either liars or oppressors who just want to steal sports/healthcare/bathrooms from women"

"Intersex women are actually men because I said so, intersex men with two X chromosomes aren't women tho because my logic isn't consistent"

"Communism is good and feminist"

Are all pretty bad takes I want nothing to do with. Radical feminism has a handful of good ideas (gender is bad, porn should be banned, "sex workers" are victims and not something to strive for) but it's mixed in with a fuckton of garbage, you could say the same about TRAs anyway.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All of this has nothing to do with second wave feminism and majority of radical feminism. Most of the things you have mentioned is liberal feminism, especially communism and intersex parts.

Vegan radical feminism is in interesting position. Those people aren't very welcomed even on Ovarit, but not thrown away either. They are funny, thought, and they are often saying about "we can sacrifice women to save animals" - interesting way to "save women" by sacrificing them.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ah yes, the whole "they aren't TRUE X" argument. GenderCritical would disagree. And no. It's not liberal feminism. Liberal feminism doesn't push for "marxist womyn only society" (wtf) or say that intersex women are just as bad as trans taking from women's sports and are just men in disguise. These are things I see only on radfem subs.

[–]joogabahGay shows the way 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, that's a caricature or maybe what some stupid teen activist spews. There is some serious theoretical work tho that isn't so crude and off putting. Also, I think you're confusing radical feminism with 3rd wave liberal feminism.