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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Token intersex person chiming in to comment on the "XY women argument"

Some women genuinely are XY. It's stupid fucking rare but there is an intersex condition that causes an XY person to develop physically female. However, they DON'T produce sperm - they have "streak gonads" where their gonads are functionless, ie they ddin't develop into ovaries or testes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis

Just remember this next time trans activists try to use conditions like this to "prove" that MTFs are "real women." Someone being born with an exceptionally rare genetic disorder (and still being born with female external genitalia) is not comparable to a man who randomly decided he wanted to "become a woman" through quack medicine and body modification.

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    [–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Re: Jamie Lee Curtis (American screen actress, just for clarity)-- think this is a rumor, actually; no indication/reason to assume that she has CAIS (Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome; from what I understand, this is what she's usually "diagnosed" with).

    That said, CAIS is indeed a real thing: a condition where biological males don't respond to androgens (sex hormones such as testosterone). This causes them to develop, externally, as female (beginning before birth); the condition-- and the fact that they are not biologically female-- is typically only discovered when they fail to menstruate during adolescence.

    Because people with CAIS are therefore almost always raised and socialized as girls, and subsequently treated as women (since both their secondary sex characteristics and external genitals seem obviously female), I'd assume that most also think of themselves as such.

    So, as other commentators have already observed, this (along with some other forms of intersexuality) seems like the rare case where a biological male considering himself female, or an apparently female-bodied person considering themselves male, is actually justified.

    [–]SkinnyVanilla 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It’s not a rumour, she’s spoken publicly about it and also been a speaker at at least one CAIS event