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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 31 insightful - 8 fun31 insightful - 7 fun32 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

Ok, what rights did Marsha give me exactly? What rights did I lack before, as a closeted Russian? Go on, I'll wait.

[–]CrashCourse[S] 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, it's odd how the mainstream LGBT movement acts as though the Stonewall riots was the start of all gay rights, even among non-Americans, even though Stonewall wasn't even the start of it in the US.

People like Karl Heinrich Ulrichs, the UK's Wolfenden Report and the like seem to be largely overlooked. An exception to this would be Magnus Hirschfeld, as his work seems to be recognised every now and again. I'm afraid I don't know of any Russian gay rights movements, though. All of these came before Stonewall, and many came after, and independently. Though, I did find something interesting said in the "aftermath" section of Stonewall's wikipedia page.

The Stonewall riots marked such a significant turning point that many aspects of prior gay and lesbian culture, such as bar culture formed from decades of shame and secrecy, were forcefully ignored and denied. Historian Martin Duberman writes, "The decades preceding Stonewall... continue to be regarded by most gay men and lesbians as some vast neolithic wasteland."

Sorry if this was a meandering ramble, it's not often I get to talk about the topic and I've done some reading on it.

[–]joogabahGay shows the way 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For a brief moment Russia was ahead of the curve, decriminalizing homosexuality in 1922 (and legalizing abortion) and having an openly gay commissar in the early days of the Russian Revolution before Stalin rolled it all back in 1933. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lenins-revolution-red-gay-and-almost-glorious_b_5a03883be4b0204d0c17140e