DiscussionMaking sure we keep transphobia out

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[–]CinnamonFrenchToast 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It doesn’t matter what anecdotal experiences you’ve had. The people you met aren’t like the majority, and while they may serve as a reminder to others that not all trans people are like the ones we encounter, that is, in no way, any reason to be accepting of them or to not strongly dislike them. One of the foundations upon which LGBDropTheT was built was us not seeing them as who they’re forcing us to. If that makes us transphobic, then there’s no keeping transphobia out. I am transphobic and that was never going to change; not before I joined the sub, not when the sub was banned, and especially not now. Fuck trans people.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It doesn’t matter what anecdotal experiences you’ve had. The people you met aren’t like the majority

I'm going to assume you have the statistics to back that up?

[–]CinnamonFrenchToast 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

For every trans person who visited DropTheT to discuss their similar interest in separating T from LGB and understood where we came from, how many more trans people would you say there are who don't want what we do, who think like the 29K+ Reddit users that upvoted the post about our sub being deleted? It doesn't take a statistic to tell you trans people that are like the ones you met are the minority. Wake up.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's irrelevant when the sample isn't random. For every trans person who didn't like the old sub, how many more do you think didn't contribute to the discussions? Or who aren't even on Reddit? I don't know the real numbers, and neither do you. If you think they're the majority then that's fine, but don't act like your opinions are facts.

[–]CinnamonFrenchToast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not participating in discussions and not using reddit doesn’t mean shit. A lot of people get on reddit just to read what goes on and don’t comment on anything at all, but that doesn’t mean those people don’t think like the ones who post and comment. And if you don’t believe me, check that post about our ban to see if there are just as many comments as there are likes. Of course I don’t know the numbers, but it doesn’t take a lot to see they’re the majority. If the 29K+ people who upvoted the post about our ban, and the thousands of people on Twitter who are clearly just like them, don’t tell you they’re the majority, then idk what else to tell other than to stop telling others how to respond to trans clowns and their supporters because of personal experiences you had.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

A 2016 study had the U.S population of transgender people at roughly 1.3 million. So unless you have evidence that over 650,000 of them hold those views, your claims are worthless.

[–]CinnamonFrenchToast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

unless you have evidence that over 650,000 of them hold those views, your claims are worthless.

Yet you mentioned the 2-5 trans idiots you know personally as if they reflect the majority of the 1.3M and are proof they can be understanding of preference. Your whole point was people don't always participate in discussions, meaning the majority could think something entirely different from those who do, but that post about us getting banned got 29K upvotes and only had 1.8K comments. 16x more users upvoted that post than users commented on it, and that number's higher since the same users made multiple comments. Are you now going to argue that the other 511K users of r/LGBT weren't against the ban? That—along with everything the trans and their supporters do on Reddit and other platforms—are clear indicators the majority are like those who wanted our sub gone. You don't have to see it or believe it if you don't want to, but fuck off with telling us not to hate on them because you think the rest of trans people are like the ones you've met. Just fuck all the way off.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm running out of ways I can explain this to you.

Yet you mentioned the 2-5 trans idiots you know personally as if they reflect the majority

Did I though? I think it was you who made that assumption.

Are you now going to argue that the other 511K users of r/LGBT weren't against the ban? That—along with everything the trans and their supporters do on Reddit and other platforms—are clear indicators the majority are like those who wanted our sub gone.

The one point I was making to you is that you didn't - and still haven't - provided the goods to back up your claim that the majority of trans people are dramatically unlike the ones I've met. My 1.3mil are US statistics, the 511k users of LGBT are neither all US-based, nor all trans. So that number becomes irrelevant. It's a well known phenomenon on social media that the extreme members of a group drown out the others and lead to a biased image of that group being made by observers. None of that actually proves anything one way or the other.

Again, I'm making no claim about what the majority actually thinks, because I understand that we don't have the objective stats to make a claim like that accurate. That's something you don't seem to understand. And I don't know how to help you with that.

fuck off with telling us not to hate on them because you think the rest of trans people are like the ones you've met. Just fuck all the way off

Not really sure what to say to this outburst other than you don't have to read my posts if you don't want to? Take care