GC Migrant Bird here. I can't believe how much they lied about us.

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[–]Spikygrasspod 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I wasn't communicating in bad faith; Your words "when the sexes were quite definitely different' left me unclear about what you believe. I wasn't sure whether you think bathrooms should be single sex. Lots of people don't think they need to be, so I wasn't wilfully misinterpreting you here--just a normal misunderstanding.

I think third spaces would be a compassionate and fair solution, and I believe the resources exist to make them a reality. I guess lots of self contained single bathrooms would be fine, but I expect that would take up a lot of space and be less practicable, if I understand your idea right (I'm imagining separate rooms, not a row of toilets separated by stalls that don't meet the floor or ceiling). I would be open to legitimate transexuals (I know this word is old fashioned and some people consider it offensive, but I'm not sure what else to call someone who actually 'transitions' as opposed to someone who just self-IDs... 'transgender' incorporates a range of relevantly different people) using whatever toilet they 'pass' in.

[–]VulpesLeonesque 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, seperate rooms, but little ones; can't see that taking up more space than a whole extra bathroom. Solves your problem of not wanting to be in a room with them, and their problem of not wanting to be easily identified by queer-bashers, which seems to me to be at least as likely as them harming women.

As for letting ones who pass use bathrooms, that's kind of like permitting water to be wet, isn't it?

[–]Spikygrasspod 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A whole extra bathroom can have multiple cubicles. But little rooms works for me, because individual spaces are single sex spaces by default.

No, it isn't like water being wet. There's a difference between being entitled to use a facility, and getting away with it because no one notices. I'm sure people prefer to be legally entitled to use the room of their choice.