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There is both Freemasonry in the vatican and Freemasonry in Cabalist Judaic sects. As for the Talmud, though it is not related to the Cabala, though Hasidic Jews are known to practice both, it is just as vile as the plundering and pillaging and murdering of Jewish enemies depicted in the Torah.

After all, who killed Yeshua? Rome and the Hillel sect of pro-credditor Jews as well as the high priests. If you think Yeshua is a non-issue, pick up Arthur Hinds book on just Yeshua's words and nothing more. He clearly is the ONLY person to follow in rightful living. Today, these same pro-creditor Jews who follow the Talmud work with the Vatican and Chabad/hasidic Judaism movements. And no, the neoconservative Jews who came from Trotskyist circles, which James Petras calls ZioCons (Zionist neoconservatives who strongly allign with Israel's Likud party, a right-wing Jewish terrorist organization) are NOT Jesuits.

Freemasonry has been a part of the Vatican and to a lesser extent memorialist Jesuits. The despotic traditional Jesuits, who were not Jews, in their works strongly were against Freemasonry, just as Weishaupt the revolutionary was by infiltrating the lodges and exclaiming how terrible it was, whilst still, stealing and using all of its symbology for his own deist, materialist cause.

B'nai B'rith, which uses freemason symbolgy is just an offshoot of Judeo-Freemasonry. And Schiff, who worked deligently at destroying the republic and bringing in debt bacaked paper currency was also an ardent supporter of Zionism which he believed if more Jews left for Israel it would allow them detente so that they could be the seat and center of world trade, ie. the gatekeepers of Europe. The Papal had often banned Freemasonry but of whiat kind? That's for you to research.

The relationship between Judaism and Freemasonry is most clearly summarised in the following article, which appeared in 1861 in a Parisian Jewish review, La Virile Israelite. Although over a century old, it is still applicable to the situation today, and we conclude this chapter by reproducing it in full.

"The connections are more intimate than one would imagine. Judaism should maintain a lively and profound sympathy for Freemasonry in general, and no matter concerning this powerful institution should be a question of indifference to it.

"For a very long time, owing to the progress in morals and public liberty, Freemasonry has been able to abandon its role of a mysterious secret society, forced by the fear and tyranny of former governments to veil itself in prudent obscurity. Its principles and methods have been known to the public for so long that it cannot be difficult to understand its spirit and its aims.

"But the spirit of Freemasonry is that of Judaism in its most fundamental beliefs; its ideas are Judaic, its language is Judaic, its very organisation, almost, is Judaic. Whenever I approach the sanctuary where the Masonic order accomplishes its works, I hear the name of Solomon ringing everywhere, and echoes of Israel. Those symbolic columns are the columns of that Temple where each day Hiram's workmen received their wages; they enshrine his revered name. The whole Masonic tradition takes me back to that great epoch when the Jewish monarch, fulfilling David's promises, raised up to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, a religious monument worthy of the creator of Heaven and earth—a tradition symbolised by powerful images which have spread outside the limits of Palestine to the whole world, but which still bear the indelible imprint of their origin.

"That Temple which must be built, since the sanctuary in Jerusalem has perished, the secret edifice at which all Masons on earth labour with one mind, with a word of command and secret rallying-points—it is the moral sanctuary, the divine asylum wherein all men who have been reconciled will re-unite one day in holy and fraternal Agapes; it is the social order which shall no longer know fratricidal wars, nor castes, nor pariahs, and where the human race will recognise and proclaim anew its original oneness. That is the work on which every initiate pledges his devotion and undertakes to lay his stone, a sublime work which has been carried on for centuries."

(La Verite Israelite, vol. V, p. 74, 1861)

The oneness of the human race, the goal towards which Judaism and Freemasonry work hand-in-hand, "with a word of command and secret rallying-points", is the unification of the world under Jewish law. "Let us now examine more closely the picture of the Messianic age, when justice and brotherhood shall reign over the earth, according to Deutero-Isaiah, whom it is well to remember is the most universal in tendency of the Prophets.

"What is certain,' writes Mr. Loeb, 'is that with or without the King- Messiah, the Jews will become the centre of humanity, with the Gentiles, after their conversion to God, grouped all around them. The unity of the human race will come about through religious unity. That is to say, if I understand the meaning of the words correctly, the Messianic age will be marked by the triumph of Jewish exclusiveness, in which the reign of justice means the strict observance of the law of Yahweh and his Prophets, the law of the poor; in a word, Jewish law. . . .'

"This is purely and simply imperialism, political, social and religious imperialism. To be quite sure, we have only to follow Isidore Loeb's guide to the description of messianic times in Deutero-Isaiah: " 'The nations will gather to pay homage to the people of God; all the fortunes of the nations will pass to the Jewish people, they will march captive behind the Jewish people in chains and will prostrate themselves before them, their kings will bring up their sons, and their princesses will nurse their children. The Jews will command the nations; they will summon peoples whom they do not even know, and peoples who do not know them will hasten to them. The riches of the sea and the wealth of nations will come to the Jews of their own right. Any people or kingdom who will not serve Israel will be destroyed. The chosen people will drink the milk of nations and suck the breasts of rulers; they will devour the wealth of the nations and cover themselves with their glory. The Jews will live in abundance and joy, their happiness will have no end, their hearts will rejoice, they will flourish like the grass. The Jews will be a race blessed by God, they will be the priests and ministers of God; the whole people will be a righteous people. The descendants of the Jews and their name will be eternal; the least among them will multiply a thousand-fold, and the most lowly will become a mighty nation. God will make an eternal covenant with them; he will reign anew over them, and their power over men will be such that, in a hallowed phrase, they will march in great strides over the high places of the earth. Nature herself will be transformed into a kind of earthly paradise; "it will be the golden age of the earth. For I, the Eternal One, love justice and hate plunder and iniquity; I shall faithfully give them their reward".'

"The dream of the poor, their ideal of justice, is no more humble, nor any less resplendent, than that of the Prophets. Yet there is a difference: the poor man is fiercer.

'It cannot be denied,' says Isidore Loeb, 'that the poor man goes too far in his hatred of the foe and in his thirst for revenge. At certain moments his anger becomes almost insensate, and he breaks out into curses which makes us shudder. He desires to do evil for evil to the foe with his own hands; he will declare war upon him and triumph over him; he will call upon the God of vengeance for help; his own eyes will witness the fall and punishment of the foe; he will mock his enemy, and his feet will trample in the blood of his foe. . . .'

"'Psalm CIX is nothing less than a long cry of hatred and vengeance against the foe.'"

(Source: Freemasonry and the Vatican)

With that being said, it is true to say that the Papacy has advocated in favor of Zionism. I have some old books on this and they clearly define Zionism as a good thing, possibly for an ulterior motive against Jewry but many Jews are just as fine with promoting Zionism for their own cause.