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[–]Mazurro 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

I had the ability to create brilliant thought provoking posts like some of the geniuses in this community. It enrages me more than being subhuman honestly.

Lack of creativity and stupidity are fixable. Read a lot, write a lot and you will find yourself in a place, where you will have way broader viewpoint.

In my case they can't even see that I am not from an English speaking country, although I didn't take English class in like 5 years.

[–]AnimeRespecter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I could tell you're not from an English-speaking country although your grammar is very good.

[–]Mazurro 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sometimes when I see the grammar of english-speaking people, I wonder how did they pass 3rd grade lol.

[–]greybeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Lack of creativity and stupidity are fixable.

This is like saying uglyness is fixable by showering and going to the gym.

You can increase your looks and your knowledge, but both are hard-capped by genetics.

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Notice how I didn't say intelligence. Intelligence can't be fixed, wisdom is hard as well, but creativity? You know how did I raise by creativity levels? By literally insulting people in the internet in various ways.

[–]greybeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I still think it's mostly genetic but most people are very far away from their potential and have lots of low hanging fruit, so the genetic part is irrelevant unless for people who want to be creative professionally.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

How creativity is supposed to be genetic? I think that each and every mental trait is the outcome of our environment combined a little with our possibilities. As in - if you were getting positive reinforcement all the time, you will be confident, if you were studying entire life, you will most likely be smart, if you had been daydreaming your entire life - you will be imaginative and maybe creative. Even the fact you are here and you have some prejudices about foids is the outcome of your treatment for years.

It's like saying hygiene is genetic - some people have to wash their hair more often, but afterall it's mostly just the behaviour there.

[–]greybeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openness_to_experience

Openness to experience correlates with creativity, as measured by tests of divergent thinking.[15] Openness has been linked to both artistic and scientific creativity as professional artists, musicians, and scientists have been found to score higher in openness compared to members of the general population.[16][17]

Openness to experience, like the other traits in the five factor model, is believed to have a genetic component. Identical twins (who have the same DNA) show similar scores on openness to experience, even when they have been adopted into different families and raised in very different environments.[55] One genetic study with 86 subjects found Openness to experience related to the 5-HTTLPR polymorphism associated with the serotonin transporter gene.[56] A meta-analysis by Bouchard and McGue of four twin studies found openness to be the most heritable (mean = 57%) of the Big Five traits.

Not definitive proof, also doesn't say the magnitude for creativity especially, but almost all traits point in the direction of being at least partially heritable.

All your examples can be turned around. You are not smart because you studied so much, instead you liked studying and did it often because you are so good at it. Brainlets will just get frustrated and stop studying after they fail to understand basics like rule of three.

It's like saying hygiene is genetic - some people have to wash their hair more often, but afterall it's mostly just the behaviour there.

It probably is to some extent. Imagine very stupid people or very unsocial people. Stupid (low IQ) is definitely heritable and unsocial probably too. Both will be much more likely to have bad hygiene.

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All your examples can be turned around. You are not smart because you studied so much, instead you liked studying and did it often because you are so good at it.

Of course it was this way, but it all would never start if I wasn't bullied in my childhood. This is what driven me to it, except of that it's entirely true.

Brainlets will just get frustrated and stop studying after they fail to understand basics like rule of three.

While doing something which REQUIRES knoeledge, sure but not when it is just shit posting with brocels. One day you will get better for sure.

Also, I don't think "openess to experience" is the thing we are actually considering here. It's more of the trait of adopting mental features due to experience, as in some nuances in social contacts, behaviour, not in terms of actual getting experience in certain fields which requires knowledge, but maybe I am wrong.

It probably is to some extent. Imagine very stupid people or very unsocial people. Stupid (low IQ) is definitely heritable and unsocial probably too. Both will be much more likely to have bad hygiene.

Exactly what I am saying - but I think it's more of heritage because of growing up in such behaviour, not because of genetic itself.

[–]greybeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well then we are not disagreeing, we just frame it differently.

[–]SicilianOmega 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If creativity isn't genetic, then why aren't rocks creative?

If it requires a brain, then it's affected by genetics, because brains are produced by genes.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

LowIQ oversimplification. Brain is developable to a certain degree, as well as muscles are, of course different people will have different cap and different gains, but it's possible to a certain degree. Rocks aren't creative because they aren't conscious, they are fucking unliving things.

[–]SicilianOmega 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You think some Down Syndrome retard with a deformed brain has the same capacity for creativity as Leonardo Da Vinci? I rest my case.

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Obviously no, which I clearly explained in comment.

[–]takavoid513 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I treat posting kind of like Im talking to people or posting memes. You don't need to be a giga Iq poster to gain somewhat of a reputation or to validate yourself as an incel. The fact that you are already blackpilled and not a woman shows your logical and not low iq.

[–]greybeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm still happy we have some high IQ cels, always a delight reading their longposts. Though I'm not jealous, they sometimes seem more depressed than the rest of us, though maybe they can just write about their misery better.

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say the opposite, if you can be vocal about something and clearly explain it, then it means you overcame it by rationalizing it or reasoning it.