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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Lurk more.

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    [–]JustShaveItBro 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

    I honestly don't think you understand the impact of being an ugly yet not visibly disfigured male (there's a difference between genetics as a cause and environment as a cause). Talk to me when you go outside and get looked at like you're a criminal just for existing. It's not that I think I'm unworthy, it's that everyone else does, and they make it blatantly obvious way past the point of covering it up.

    Haircuts and shit are cope, when you're a 5/10 maybe sure it can help, but when you have a legit subhuman face your best hope is surgery, to women, what matters most is a man's bone structure, everything on top of that is just icing. Manlets have it the worst though, because surgery can't even help them.

    Not only women care about looks and height, look into the halo effect, men over 6'0 are vastly overrepresented in top Fortune 500 positions for instance, people (men and women) when asked to make judgements about someone based on their face almost overwhelmingly immediately associated bad to worst traits with the ugliest males while saying the handsome ones looked successful and moral. This can pervade even when somebody knows an individual personally, I've had people I considered my friends tell me that they thought I was literally planning a mass shooting, admittedly based entirely off how I look.

    Really, don't just lurk here, go to /r/blackpillscience on reddit and read, edumacate yoself, and once you're attuned to human behaviour in the presence of an ugly male, you'll start noticing it everywhere and maybe you can begin to understand where all this "hate" comes from.

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      [–]JustShaveItBro 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      I find it consistently entertaining that everyone that I talk to on this matter "knows this guy who's short and ugly but doing fine" but I've never actually met that guy before. Maybe these guys you refer to have more going on than meets the eye. It's like going to the deep south in the 50s and being like "racism isn't a problem I know this one guy who's black etc etc".

      The problem goes so far beyond not being able to find a partner, I just want to be treated like a human being for a start. Like that's it, that's all I want, I want to be able to walk down the street without people fucking grimacing at me like I'm some sort of rabid beast that got let out of its cage, if I could have just that then I wouldn't be here because I'd be content enough to move forward in life, but as of right now I see literally no point in continuing, if everyone's just going to assume the worst about me because of the way my skull looks it's much harder for me to win people over with "personality" (which I have obviously managed, but I have to put in a lot more mental effort than 90% of men would), it will be harder for me to be respected anywhere I go, for what? Some guy who was born with the right face walks in and immediately gets more love than I ever did in my life just for existing, and invalidates all my hard work. Fuck that.

      [–]Xas 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Look, in one's real life social circle rapport can be created and such relations can emerge organically, though the uglier the less likelier it is to happen. As people are basically forced to spend time together in many scenarios, and such can happen.

      But randomly approaching someone at a bar or on the streets will be an almost impossible case for those who're ugly. Also online dating will also be an abyss, no matter how hard you try.

      Yes there are some mentally ill sex addict women who do whore themselves out for free, but not only are they probably std filled, but their mental instability is likely an issue.   You could have one night stands dumpster diving, but at least when there are serious mental issues and serious std issues, that is not good for long term companionship.