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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I can try to explain more if you'd like, but I'm having a bit of a hard time reading your tone here.

I'm not here to fight with anyone, to convince, or to be convinced, or whatever. I want this to be a place where we can work together positively without feeling like we're imposing on each other or being imposed on. I want this to be a place where everyone can state their perspective openly and can take from the conversations whatever they each find useful.

If biological sex has no influence on social behaviors, then I want to believe that. If it has some influence, then I want to understand that, whatever it is. I don't like feeling like I have to take any dogmatic position, and I want this to be an environment where other women don't have to either. I want us all to be free to think for ourselves and to discuss openly but without pressure here. That's all I'm saying.

[–]Yayme 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry, my kid tells me I'm terrible at texting because I always sound mad. I did upvote all your comments to try to show I was engaging in good faith discourse. Maybe I should use more emojis? :-D

Like I said, I don't really fit in with Radical Feminism, because I'm a Christian, and I own my own business, and we have a big house, and a cleaning lady, and all that stuff. And they're all Marxists. So I was thinking maybe this was a sub for people who were critical of gender roles, but who were not full blown Marxists. But... not I'm thinking maybe that's not it. Maybe you want to debate?

The announcement was more like a stream of consciousness than anything, so it was a bit hard to follow. But I'm thinking this is the meat of it?

This just sounds like the debate sub. It sounds like I just want the debate sub to exist. Hmm.

Anyway, I subscribed when I first found the place. And I'm not going to unsubscribe. I'll go ahead and engage with topics that interest me. But I'm probably not interested in debating my beliefs anymore. I'm old. Aint nobody got time for that :-D

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

lol you can communicate how you like. I just wasn't sure where you were trying to take the conversation, I suppose.

The announcement was more like a stream of consciousness than anything, so it was a bit hard to follow. But I'm thinking this is the meat of it?

Hm. Well I'm not always as clear a writer as I'd like.

So I was thinking maybe this was a sub for people who were critical of gender roles, but who were not full blown Marxists. But... not I'm thinking maybe that's not it. Maybe you want to debate?

I want women who are critical of gender roles and who are not full blown marxists to feel welcome here. (And it's my impression they would be on GC too, btw. I don't think they're all 100% full-blown marxists, especially because they tend to criticize the expectation that women put everyone else's needs before women's needs in activism.)

I don't mean it to be specifically for that though. I want it to be a place that welcomes all women, regardless of ideology or life situation or whatever. I suppose the sidebar is a bit long, but that's where I really tried to spell out what the sub is meant for. And maybe "debate" is kinda close but I mean it to be for discussion more than debate. I'd rather just share perspectives and learn from each other without feeling any need to correct each other or whatever. Sometimes I think it's easier to learn in a less confrontational way anyway.