If all cells can turn into sperm and egg, why doesn't that mean everyone is both men and women at the same time?

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[–]Michael_frf 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Gametes are important. They are literally what determines and defines sex.

Only from an abstract, ivory-tower point of view. GC is at the barricades, not the ivory tower. They just feel smug that the ivory tower agrees with them and only an unlikely medical breakthrough can change that.

What actually matters is that sexual offenders are empirically really rare among the people GC recognizes as female. They are empirically not so rare among the people TRAs recognize as female. So segregation by sex means a great benefit to females, but only if the GC definition is in effect.

A naive observer might think the "not our crimes" side of GC, where really embarrassing behaviour by MTFs is held up to ridicule, is a form of teasing the other side. But it's actually closer to the meat of the argument than any teasing of MTFs about their inability to get pregnant.

[–]UwUUwU[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Only from an abstract, ivory-tower point of view

What does this mean? Gametes are what determines sex from a scientific view. English is not my first language so please correct me if I'm mistaken, but you sound like you're against GC? What are you doing in a GC subreddit if you're against GC?

What's with "GC considering something female" and "TRAs recognizing something as female" as though TRAs are "right"? It doesn't matter what TRAs "consider" or "recognize" as female because they base everything on "feelings"

[–]Michael_frf 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you sound like you're against GC?

Not at all. Neither I nor a gametes-based point of view disagree with GC, in practice. There's just a theoretical niggle.

My point is that if MTFs found a way to transform their bodies to the extent that they do produce ova, that would not be enough to get them recognized as "truly women" by GC feminists. Hence, GC isn't actually using gametes as a philosophical basis.

[–]Michael_frf 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"GC considering something female"

I just noticed something. I never said "considering" -- I used the verb "recognize" for both the GC view and the TRA view. Your impression that I used friendlier language for the TRA view must be a translation mistake.