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[–]Literallyawoman 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It’s literally being not like the other girls except instead of stigmatizing makeup and “femme” clothes they now stigmatize being female. Like a lot of trends for women it’s rooted in internalized misogyny-women feel they can’t be gross, dirty, fat, thin and flat chested, masculine, fucking SMART or STRONG and still be a woman, so they redefine their label.

But that’s based on my experience and a total lack of any male enbys I know personally know or know of. And...it’s always really insecure overweight women. As someone who’s been overweight I feel comfortable pointing that out. Being fat isn’t considered feminine sure that’s a problem in society and ideal female bodies blah blah blah BUT it’s leading to overweight women feeling so unfeminine and undesirable/unsexualized they opt out of womanhood altogether, and just give up on their health completely in the name of “self-acceptance”.

[–]Jekawi[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The singer Sam Smith has recently come out as NB with they/them pronouns (he was still using he/him for a while). Thing is he looks like a dude. Changed nothing about his appearance at all.

Also with the overweight thing I can't help but think of the Danish comedian I post about the other day, Sofie Hagen. She recently came out as NB and as I said in that post, I would think it's rooted in misogyny and her life long fight with it. It had to leave its mark somehow.

[–]denverkris 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

He occasionally wears lippy, a bit of nail polish. He sashay a wee bit.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

When I was growing up, we called those 'metrosexual'.