I know its been discussed before, but I need clarification again - why is Transgender so much different than someone saying they are Transracial? I understood before - gender is not biological, etc. but now with the blurring of biology within this ideology I am confused with this argument.

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[–]BEB 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sir, you revealed your maleness in this sentence:

"a person's sex should be considered an inconsequential part of a person. "

You will never get it. We WOMEN go through all sorts of hell solely because of our female bodies.

To dismiss our sex, and our experiences as the result of our biology, not to mention our experiences because of society's expectation of us because we are female, means you have ZERO idea of what we are, how we feel, or what are LIVED EXPERIENCES are.

Because while women are each very different, and our bodily experiences vary, I guarantee that another women and I could bond over periods, or menopause, or ovarian cysts, or being chased down a dark street, or cornered in an office after work hours, in a way you never can, and your statement just proves it.

The entitlement...

[–]transwoman 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I was saying that a person's sex should not lead one to be treated differently or othered in society. I was not in any way trying to undermine the lived experiences and oppression of natal women. That sentence highlights an end goal of what should be, that sex should be inconsequential, not that it actually is inconsequential when we're discussing sex-based oppression.

I've had a couple of great discussions in this thread with people who took my views at face value and in good faith, rather than extrapolating them into something they aren't, as you have done. I'm not interested in conversations with those unwilling to have an honest discussion. Take care.

[–]anonymale 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I was not in any way trying to undermine the lived experiences and oppression of natal women.

That's right, you do it without trying, without understanding that's what you're doing even when told clearly and repeatedly.

[–]transwoman 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll repeat it again:

I've had a couple of great discussions in this thread with people who took my views at face value and in good faith, rather than extrapolating them into something they aren't

In a discussion about transracialism, outlining the historical oppression of people of color does not undermine the highly apparent historical oppression of females. Talking about one does not mean I'm ignoring the other. So much extrapolation.