How do we tell the difference?

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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I have to wonder what exactly were supposed to do. If we voice concerns we’re terrible violent abusive terf wenches and if we don’t voice them, that silence is taken as acceptance and support.

There is absolutely no way for a woman to communicate freely and without having words put on our mouths.

[–]AlexisK 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

It is always this way.

With Domestic Violence - if husband murders wife, everyone saying "why she stayed if it was that bad?". And if she is leaving - everyone saying "why she left and ruined family, she should try to fix it and change his mind".

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And if she is leaving

If she is raising concerns, then people are saying that she is exaggerating and being pesky or picky.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You raise an excellent point there. Lots of family annihilators and murderers of wives/girlfriends are talked about in media( especially social media) like they’re noble guys pushed too far into some inevitable rage. The blame is directed to the women in his life and how they must have failed him, causing his violence. Never seen an article that didn’t include what a great guy people thought he was.

Then the same dudes say women who kill are treated too lightly ignoring that women who kill are a thousand times rarer, and tend to be women with post partum psychosis killing infants whilst delusional, not accidentally beating husbands to death.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The blame is directed to the women in his life and how they must have failed him

I saw this many times in news reports - either wife was not supporting him, or his mother was not good at raising "a good kid".

ignoring that women who kill are a thousand times rarer

And that out of those very rare murders by women - 3/4 of their victims are other females, with majority of victims being much younger than murderer. And only in 1/16 of all cases they are murdering a grown up man, in at least half of cases of cases in self defense, and rest are often done in group (majority of violence done by women is done in pairing with a man).

not accidentally beating husbands to death.

accidentally

You are referring to that recent murder which was set as manslaughter, because "man was stressed because of COVID" (and why no one thinks that woman maybe was stressed too?) and then he "slipped" by strangling his wife, when she break out of being strangled and tried to run from house, he reached her again and strangled second time, this time to death, and she died putting key into keyhole. You don't "accidentally" strangling your wife multiple times, folowing her from second floor to first.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oh wow I hadn’t even heard of that story you mentioned! I’ve just read a lot of other pieces saying basically, yeah, guy was really stressed/sad and his mean awful nagging wife pushed him to kill her/her and the kids.

It’s like she’s responsible for every bad feeling the guy ever felt in his life and his murderous rage was an understandable outburst. Something is seriously wrong with a lot of people to treat killing ones own family as understandable in any context.

It’s unreal how men will rush to mention how occasionally women murder too, when the sheer difference in numbers is staggering. To hear guys talk about it, every one of them has been savagely beaten and emotionally abused for prolonged periods of time by a woman in their life.

It’s such a common theme, especially in Australia. As a culture australia assumes the woman invites violence by “being a bitch” 🙄.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Judge said that man "just slipped and was stressed". While that man started strangling wife, then she run away and he continued. It can't be "accidentally".

https://archive.is/aspIG

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/18/anthony-williams-killed-wife-act-of-great-violence-jailed-for-five-years

It is not the single case, by the way:

"Hand must have slipped so he strangled her accidentally" - how can you "strangle for few minutes" accidentally? Such a bullshit.

https://archive.is/MtcsJ

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-56454792

To hear guys talk about it, every one of them has been savagely beaten and emotionally abused for prolonged periods of time by a woman in their life.

Just recently someone was talking about it in this sub. That men and women have such different standarts and measured by them differently. "Nagging for sex" by a wife is written as sexual assault against men, but "men demanding sex from wife as part of 'marriage duty'" is not written as sexual assault against women.

Edit:

Found it: /s/GCdebatesQT/comments/7ryb/_/t7cn

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It’s so awful that even a judge is calling choking a woman to death an accident. It’s not quick, it’s very deliberate. It’s also not an accident to roll the thumbs over the trachea, crushing it further. I suspect these men absolutely rolled their thumbs intending to kill.

That difference is so weird. Like, nagging for sex is raping men but telling a woman it’s her purpose as a wife to have sex when she doesn’t want to isnt raping her?! Wtf. It’s designed to make women look more predatory than they are.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It’s designed to make women look more predatory than they are.

They need to support their "women are doing it too" somehow. Statistics are against them if they are taking same measurements, so they are cheating by measuring women and men with different standarts.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Absolutely!! It’s a push to hide the number of pedophiles and rapists in the tra ranks. There’s far more overlap between the two groups to pretend it’s just coincidental.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't say it is about TRA ranks, those researches are old MRA ones, some are 5-10 years old or more. It is just that TRA are using those to say that "there nothing strange in transwomen being so violent and agressive, because many womenare like that too, it is not men's behaviour" and to cover crimes too.