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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I see why you would say this but doesn’t it make you a little squicked to think about how this is basically ugly people get less rights. That feels... wrong on a deep level.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

“Doesn’t match societal conventions for women’s appearances” is better and more accurate than “ugly”

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

A non passing trans woman is an ugly trans woman. I stand by that. As an ugly trans woman.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

No one is ugly.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Society has appearance standards. Some people don’t meet them. I’m one of them. It’s not the end of the world but, yeah some folk are ugly.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I mean by that logic rich, white, able bodied, young people are the most attractive demographic considering the prejudiced nature of the society we live in. I reject that oppressive logic though. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To a point, but some people are ugly. It’s so bizzare that you object to that.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It’s a viewpoint I utterly disagree with. You’re entitled to your opinion though of course.

[–]FlanJam 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well yeah, I admit it doesn't sound nice, but idk any better solution. The other options are far worse imo. Well, third spaces are probably ideal but its not pragmatic.