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[–]pippiTheLongstocki[S] 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

Okay... let’s say it’s a bio-social contract (🙄)

OKay

That doesn’t mean that trans people get to decide where they fit in to it.

I'm fit. My neighbors, friends, and almost everybody in my life think that I'm cis straight female. I'm even more fit than cis-lesbi-separatists which is not fit with biggest part of society. It doesn't mean that I'm against lesbi at all. I'm progressive and I support LGBT rights.

Most people think transwomen are men

Most people think that covid is not exist, or that HIV+ people are dangerous for them even if they walk around. Democracy is not about withdraw human rights of one or another minority - you can always find a new minorities. Almost everybody could be force divided from other people by one or another criteria (created by hate groups) and assigned to untermensch. Do not do this. Stop.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Did you just claim you’re more woman that lesbians?

Cut the nazi shit out. It’s insanely belittling to actual Holocaust victims.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I love how they make statements like “I support lgbt rights” or “I’m an ally for feminists against patriarchy” then proceed to make homophobic and misogynistic comment after comment. I’m really starting to think this is troll, I hope that’s the case because the idea that someone like this could really exist and is really invading our spaces regularly is kind of terrifying. That’s the thing, TW don’t have to be dangerous to make women uncomfortable, I don’t know why so many don’t understand that.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Idk about troll this time. I want to but this is honestly a lot of the shit that’s thrown around genuinely by transwomen from Reddit.
I’ve lost the line between parody and the real thing.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That’s true. It was just wishful thinking on my part, I guess.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Honestly who knows. Scary that people can think like this, creepy that someone would feel the need to troll with such a perfect combo of misogyny, self obsession, and refusal to listen whilst demanding to be listened to. Horrific that they could be real and be allowed in a change room with women they don’t seem to see as people.

[–]pippiTheLongstocki[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Horrific that they could be real and be allowed in a change room with women

I'm safe even in the stupid GC concerns: I have SRS, and physically can't not be sexual predator. Also I was safe even before SRS, I'm straight, I feel attraction and can fall in love only with males. And of cource, it's stupid concerns. I much more safe even with a lot of cisgirls. One of my previous employers had call center in the office. Call center had a senior guy, which technically was second head in this department. I even not liked him as boy, but girls in the call center - they liked. We often drink tea together. So, #itNeverHappen: I received treats from one girl from the call center: she was stupid enough to sent me email in the corporation email box: "f*ck him off! Or I'll meet you with friends and we stab you". Because she was stupid to send this in the corporate email, they fired you. But, of course, with males it happened more often: in school before transition, and later, after transition when I passed: my first boyfriend beat me and I not understood in that time that it's wrong. Also it was a rape attempt later. I believe, I can't do harm anybody. I can't psychologically. But your idea that only AMAB can do this is really funny.

misogyny It's not me. But it's my former manager - when I worked for another employer, she love to torture me and another girl in the team. Also we're both had the smallest salary in the team. When she hired me, she lied me, that my salary is above average in the team.

Stop demonize me and other transsexuals (transwoman with gender dysphoria in the past). We're mostly progressive, we often support female rights, especially if we're stealth, because they're applicable for us too, and we're not a treat for cis females. Stop attempts to split us and assign to untermensch group. Stop promote ideas which can lead to millions of transgender suicides. Fight patriarchy, not innocent TW (of cource, I don't speak about self-proclamed as woman sex predators like Jessica Yaniv)

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can say you’re harmless all you like. Doesn’t entitle you to women’s spaces.

Calling concerns about protecting women stupid really highlights just how misogynistic you are.

Never suggested only males can hurt people. Just recognise that 99% of the time it’s a male doing the harming. Take it up with the fuckin fbi if you’re mad about crime stats proving males commit most violence.

I’m not reading your garbled anecdote. It doesn’t mean anything on a grand scale. You keep making gc values a personal attack and don’t seem to be able to think about other people or groups of people.

Transwomen are not helpful or supportive to women. Stealth transwomen are actively eroding women’s rights by invading them. Claiming woman means anything other than adult human female is patriarchal and reinforcement of bullshit gender norms that oppress women.

You call yourself a supporter of women whilst calling women you don’t like stupid and attempting to emotionally blackmail them with suicide baiting. Clearly what you think and say you are is not a reflection of reality.

You are the patriarchy. That’s why we don’t want you in our spaces. Go awf.

Cute how you only respond to comments where you weren’t asked anything hard and can just sit there saying ‘j’accuse! You’re bad bad women! Horrible ten thousand years prison for women!’

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being fit has nothing to do with it

Most people seem to understand that covid is a real thing, since we’ve been fucking quarantined for over a year

HIV myths have been debunked and general understanding of the AIDS/HIV has been readily accessible for 20 years

Eta: Also- people not knowing provable things doesn’t mean that facts aren’t still facts. I’m not going to speculate on your passability, it doesn’t matter. You can fool who you fool (if you really do, but I suspect the things you say may clue them in even if you do actually look female), it doesn’t make you a woman.

And even if the covid and hiv stuff was accurate- has nothing to do with transwomen being female or male

Transwomen aren’t minorities, but let’s pretend they are- that doesn’t make them women. It would literally mean that they aren’t. Humans are male and female, men are male, women are female, it’s a natural divide that has nothing to do with hatred, it’s about biology. Women and transwomen aren’t the same. Stop forcing yourself on us. Leave women the fuck alone. And our spaces, too.